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	<title>Comments on: Public outcry over Top Dog kennel continues</title>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-18382</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14428&quot;&gt;Bethany&lt;/a&gt;.

Bethany,  Her name is Winnie.  Of course I knew of her health and other issues when I got her. Getting her out of that awful place was the point.  She had basically spent her whole life i  caged, producing puppies her sole reason for existance. What a sad life for a sweet, gentle dog. Winnie was afraid of people, afraid to be petted, afraid to even eat from her food bowl if someone was nearby.  She crouched and ran if a person walked directly toward her or extended a hand quickly, especially near or above her head. Does this sound to you like a dog who has been well treated? There is no excuse for not attending to the health of a dog of any age.  She had infected ears and was covered in fleas.  Both conditions cause suffering, itching and pain, for the dog, but nobody at Top Dog Kennels cared about that. Neither of those conditions prevented her from having more puppies, which appears to have been all she was valued for.  Tumors do not arise out of neglect or abuse, but failure to appropriately treat an animal who has them shows a callous disregard for that animal&#039;s wellbeing. When an animal is a comodity however, I guess you don&#039;t worry too much about whether it is suffering as long as that suffering doesn&#039;t get in the way of your profit, right?  I get that these dogs are not beloved pets, but that is no excuse for treating them cruelly.  Make no mistake; to leave a social animal like a dog to live it&#039;s entire life alone in a cage is the height of cruelty. 
I&#039;m glad to say Winnie has been adopted into a very kind and loving adoptive home.  In the time she has left they are dedicated to making sure she has the kind of life she deserves; a clean, soft bed every night and love from those caring for her.  She survived Top Dog Kennels; no thanks to  Ron Abbott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14428">Bethany</a>.</p>
<p>Bethany,  Her name is Winnie.  Of course I knew of her health and other issues when I got her. Getting her out of that awful place was the point.  She had basically spent her whole life i  caged, producing puppies her sole reason for existance. What a sad life for a sweet, gentle dog. Winnie was afraid of people, afraid to be petted, afraid to even eat from her food bowl if someone was nearby.  She crouched and ran if a person walked directly toward her or extended a hand quickly, especially near or above her head. Does this sound to you like a dog who has been well treated? There is no excuse for not attending to the health of a dog of any age.  She had infected ears and was covered in fleas.  Both conditions cause suffering, itching and pain, for the dog, but nobody at Top Dog Kennels cared about that. Neither of those conditions prevented her from having more puppies, which appears to have been all she was valued for.  Tumors do not arise out of neglect or abuse, but failure to appropriately treat an animal who has them shows a callous disregard for that animal&#8217;s wellbeing. When an animal is a comodity however, I guess you don&#8217;t worry too much about whether it is suffering as long as that suffering doesn&#8217;t get in the way of your profit, right?  I get that these dogs are not beloved pets, but that is no excuse for treating them cruelly.  Make no mistake; to leave a social animal like a dog to live it&#8217;s entire life alone in a cage is the height of cruelty.<br />
I&#8217;m glad to say Winnie has been adopted into a very kind and loving adoptive home.  In the time she has left they are dedicated to making sure she has the kind of life she deserves; a clean, soft bed every night and love from those caring for her.  She survived Top Dog Kennels; no thanks to  Ron Abbott.</p>
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		<title>By: Doglover</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14658</link>
		<dc:creator>Doglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m beyond curious does anyone know any one who has ever bought a male dog older than 1 year old from him? 

I’ve read all the comments on all the pages and websites and I see a couple people who have bought one of his10 year old bred to death females and their testimonies of puppies. But I’ve never seen an ad for a ‘stud’ what happens to all those boys? I’ve heard but not seen or seen pictures of these dogs I’ve heard there are as many as 15 or so breeding males all pinned together and they’re all scarred up probably from being in a pen with 15 other intact males I assume? 
So I’m curious can his family and friends on here tell us what happens to the male dogs and how long are they bred for? Then where do they go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m beyond curious does anyone know any one who has ever bought a male dog older than 1 year old from him? </p>
<p>I’ve read all the comments on all the pages and websites and I see a couple people who have bought one of his10 year old bred to death females and their testimonies of puppies. But I’ve never seen an ad for a ‘stud’ what happens to all those boys? I’ve heard but not seen or seen pictures of these dogs I’ve heard there are as many as 15 or so breeding males all pinned together and they’re all scarred up probably from being in a pen with 15 other intact males I assume?<br />
So I’m curious can his family and friends on here tell us what happens to the male dogs and how long are they bred for? Then where do they go?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14521</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave I&#039;m going to answer your question although you don&#039;t answer mine. I&#039;m going to guess what you&#039;re referring to is the post where they call you a troll and say you don&#039;t make sense... a troll is someone who &quot;makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.&quot; calling people stupid I&#039;d say qualifies... along with some of your other posts. The not making sense part probably stems from the fact that you tell people to do something instead of just sitting at a computer complaining... but then when they do by contacting their representatives to get the ordinance changed that they feel allows the abuse of animals you complain about that... thus not making sense... you&#039;re complaining about people getting off their keyboard and trying to invoke change that they believe in. Now I could be wrong and you could be referring to something else... or maybe that&#039;s not what PMTHATER means. Just my interpretation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave I&#8217;m going to answer your question although you don&#8217;t answer mine. I&#8217;m going to guess what you&#8217;re referring to is the post where they call you a troll and say you don&#8217;t make sense&#8230; a troll is someone who &#8220;makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.&#8221; calling people stupid I&#8217;d say qualifies&#8230; along with some of your other posts. The not making sense part probably stems from the fact that you tell people to do something instead of just sitting at a computer complaining&#8230; but then when they do by contacting their representatives to get the ordinance changed that they feel allows the abuse of animals you complain about that&#8230; thus not making sense&#8230; you&#8217;re complaining about people getting off their keyboard and trying to invoke change that they believe in. Now I could be wrong and you could be referring to something else&#8230; or maybe that&#8217;s not what PMTHATER means. Just my interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: PMTHATER</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14476</link>
		<dc:creator>PMTHATER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14469&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;/a&gt;.

Dan - I wouldn&#039;t waste your time on Dave M. He is a known troll and doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14469">Barbara</a>.</p>
<p>Dan &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t waste your time on Dave M. He is a known troll and doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14469</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2018 01:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14468&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

And he won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14468">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>And he won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14468</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t answer my question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t answer my question.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14466</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave did you read the article? It isn&#039;t two or three people... and this article isn&#039;t about Abbott breaking current laws its about the regulations needing to be changed so that people like Abbott don&#039;t abuse animals for profit by over breeding, unsanitary conditions, keeping them in small enclosures out in the hot sun and wet mud. Abbott claims he doesn&#039;t do this so why are you guys fighting changing the regulations to prevent what Abbott claims doesn&#039;t happen anyway? If Top Dog Kennel is so animal friendly changing the regulations wont affect him. So the simple question is do you feel dogs should be bred every heat, in small enclosures with lots of other dogs, in 110+ degree heat in the summer and/or freezing wet mud in the winter? If you do then you don&#039;t want the regulations changed... if you don&#039;t then you would be appalled that the current regulations apparently allow this type of behavior... so which are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave did you read the article? It isn&#8217;t two or three people&#8230; and this article isn&#8217;t about Abbott breaking current laws its about the regulations needing to be changed so that people like Abbott don&#8217;t abuse animals for profit by over breeding, unsanitary conditions, keeping them in small enclosures out in the hot sun and wet mud. Abbott claims he doesn&#8217;t do this so why are you guys fighting changing the regulations to prevent what Abbott claims doesn&#8217;t happen anyway? If Top Dog Kennel is so animal friendly changing the regulations wont affect him. So the simple question is do you feel dogs should be bred every heat, in small enclosures with lots of other dogs, in 110+ degree heat in the summer and/or freezing wet mud in the winter? If you do then you don&#8217;t want the regulations changed&#8230; if you don&#8217;t then you would be appalled that the current regulations apparently allow this type of behavior&#8230; so which are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14460</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The voice of what people?  Two or three malcontents?  

Guess what?  If this business meets the legal specifications, that&#039;s the end of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The voice of what people?  Two or three malcontents?  </p>
<p>Guess what?  If this business meets the legal specifications, that&#8217;s the end of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14455</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14442&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

there is proof... um just in case you&#039;re wondering people coming forward as witnesses of these allegations is considered proof... also pictures that have been shown is proof. Now the absence of evidence is not considered proof... so the fact that when they checked his kennel he skated by at the minimum standards is not evidence that the people who are making allegations are lying... it could be that the standards are really low. Which the county has stated. Does Abbotts kennel have low standards... my opinion yes. And if Abbotts being harassed then he should follow your advice and talk to a lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14442">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>there is proof&#8230; um just in case you&#8217;re wondering people coming forward as witnesses of these allegations is considered proof&#8230; also pictures that have been shown is proof. Now the absence of evidence is not considered proof&#8230; so the fact that when they checked his kennel he skated by at the minimum standards is not evidence that the people who are making allegations are lying&#8230; it could be that the standards are really low. Which the county has stated. Does Abbotts kennel have low standards&#8230; my opinion yes. And if Abbotts being harassed then he should follow your advice and talk to a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/08/02/public-outcry-over-top-dog-kennel-continues/#comment-14443</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, regulations only need to be enforced if people are breaking them... are you saying Mr. Abbott is someone who wont follow regulations? Dog fighting used to be legal and even promoted by the United Kennel Club... until the &quot;voice of the people&quot; changed and saw it as abuse. Well the &quot;voice of the people&quot; see what Mr. Abbott does as abuse and apparently he needs regulations to tell him that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, regulations only need to be enforced if people are breaking them&#8230; are you saying Mr. Abbott is someone who wont follow regulations? Dog fighting used to be legal and even promoted by the United Kennel Club&#8230; until the &#8220;voice of the people&#8221; changed and saw it as abuse. Well the &#8220;voice of the people&#8221; see what Mr. Abbott does as abuse and apparently he needs regulations to tell him that.</p>
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