Comments on: Both Tulare police chief & city manager fired in one day

By: P baldwin

P baldwin — Mon, 15 Aug 2022 17:17:55 +0000

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By: Valley Voice recognized in California Journalism Awards - Valley Voice

Valley Voice recognized in California Journalism Awards - Valley Voice — Sun, 05 May 2019 07:36:14 +0000

[…] package included coverage of Tulare Police Chief Wes Hensley’s suspension, Hensley’s firing on the same day as former Tulare City Manager Joe Carlini, lawsuits filed for public records, controversial comments made by former Tulare Mayor Carlton […]

By: Thumbs Up to Tulare?

Thumbs Up to Tulare? — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 05:35:36 +0000

Fire Chief Epps will actually be great and he will stand up for what is right. Thankfully one of the mayor’s or nunley’s buddies didn’t get the job after all; but there’s still that possibility with the permanent position.

By: Thumbs Up to Tulare?

Thumbs Up to Tulare? — Sun, 25 Mar 2018 02:33:43 +0000

Now we read in another paper that Monday night they’re having a special closed session to talk about the city manager and interim city manager. The way things are going, hopefully they don’t “reshuffle” positions and oust the interim city manager. I wouldn’t pull it past this council to say because all five members weren’t present when they did the last fire and appointment, that to be “fair” they should decide on the interim city manager with all 5 present. The current one would stand up against them, which is why I’m sure the mayor and nunley would be happier with one of their cronies. I wonder who that would be?

By: Dread Pirate Roberts

Dread Pirate Roberts — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 19:17:10 +0000

In reply to Barbara.

AT WILL EMPLOYEE CHECKMATE

By: Barbara

Barbara — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:26:49 +0000

In reply to Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo.

Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo, are you saying that two policemen are not capable of subduing an unarmed 170 pound man? That they are both too weak, not physically strong enough, NOT TRAINED to do the job? Yeah lets leave the brute strength to the local crisis workers……ever met a crisis worker? Ever dealt with a crisis worker? Hope you have because you are telling everyone that they are bigger, better, and smarter than the average bear…oops I meant cop! lol

By: Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo

Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:12:53 +0000

When he took the baton from the officer he becomes armed, they did less lethal and it failed. To everyone who thinks they were under trained, I want you to try and take down a 170lb man who is off meds and on something possibly with just your brute strength. I have been in an ER room with one, it can’t be done. He threw a hospital bed across the room. We should then not allow mental health facility to use injectable calming agents then. Maybe Crisis workers should be called to control suspects that have mental illness and when subdued police can step in, I am sure they would be ok with that.

By: Joseph Oldenbourg

Joseph Oldenbourg — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:06:35 +0000

In reply to Barbara.

Exactly so, Barbara. Let’s take the guns out of this, hypothetically. One came unholstered somehow, and clattered to the sidewalk during the chase. The other jammed. Now, we still have two cops against one civilian. Do they now just run away? What this shooting demonstrates is a lack of physical training when it comes to subduing and unarmed individual. And it’s shocking.

By: Barbara

Barbara — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:30:50 +0000

In reply to Dan.

I think he is saying (correct me Pro Public if I got it wrong) that there are trainings on how to subdue individuals who are not armed with a deadly weapon and who may well be mentally unstable. I worked in an acute care psychiatric facility for numerous years and we were trained and taught on how to “subdue” an out of control individual in a humane but determinative way. There were at a minimum two policemen who were interacting with the individual when they elected to shoot him even though he was unarmed. Perhaps if they were trained to properly subdue him in order to protect this guy from himself as well as others the outcome could have very well been different. The police most definitely have a role to play in public safety which includes keeping individuals safe from harming themselves as well as others. We don’t want the police to be trained to first shoot if they can take the time to assess the situation and try other means available to them. Of course there are those who will discount that choice as uninformed, weak and “too liberal” until it is someone that they love, care for, or even friendly who is shot and killed unnecessarily by the police.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:47:16 +0000

In reply to Pro Public.

Im trying to understand your point… are you saying that because an individual is mentally unstable he should get a pass and cops shouldn’t protect the public from him? or are you saying that the cops regardless of his mental status did something wrong? I agree this guy should have been getting treatment and not been out on the streets. However, if someone is assaulting a bus driver while my children are cowering under their desks i expect the police to respond and protect. I agree that this individual should have gotten help. Its sad that his family or friends or people who knew him didnt have the ability to help him or that the programs or institutions werent available to him. You can try and raise awareness for treatment. But dont blame the cops for the systems failings.