Comments on: GUILTY! https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/ In-depth, locally-produced coverage of the Central Valley. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:43:55 -0700 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Kelly https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-143660 Kelly Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:13:09 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-143660 A little late in the game here , however after reading the comments , I’m left wondering how people can seemingly not be aware that people are often convicted of crimes that they’re innocent of. The large number of convicted murderers that have been released after years of being in prison , being found wrongly accused and convicted by a jury of their peers should tell us all that we can’t always trust our judicial system, that many of these wrongly accused had evidence withheld by prosecutors and other law enforcement officials that would have helped their cases make respecting the judicial system and jury decisions impossible. Trump was targeted by his political opponents , not one of these cases would have ever been filed if he had not been . A little late in the game here , however after reading the comments , I’m left wondering how people can seemingly not be aware that people are often convicted of crimes that they’re innocent of. The large number of convicted murderers that have been released after years of being in prison , being found wrongly accused and convicted by a jury of their peers should tell us all that we can’t always trust our judicial system, that many of these wrongly accused had evidence withheld by prosecutors and other law enforcement officials that would have helped their cases make respecting the judicial system and jury decisions impossible. Trump was targeted by his political opponents , not one of these cases would have ever been filed if he had not been .

]]> By: Dave M https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140327 Dave M Thu, 06 Jun 2024 20:22:54 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140327 So Biden can flaunt SCOTUS, destroy the border and dictate when he chooses to do anything. No thank you; I will never again vote for a Democrat! So Biden can flaunt SCOTUS, destroy the border and dictate when he chooses to do anything. No thank you; I will never again vote for a Democrat!

]]> By: Barbara Kane https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140288 Barbara Kane Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:10:21 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140288 Well said G. Sada! Bob it would be nice if Cari actually answered your question but being MAGA he will utilize the "art of the dodge" when asked questions he cannot or will not answer. As for Cari's comment to me he apparently is incapable of or perhaps too immature to understand that "good citizenship" requires not undermining but "caring about the facts" and "caring about safeguarding Democracy" which means respecting law and order and our judicial system" and "accepting the decisions of juries of our peers" even though he may not like the outcome. Well said G. Sada! Bob it would be nice if Cari actually answered your question but being MAGA he will utilize the “art of the dodge” when asked questions he cannot or will not answer. As for Cari’s comment to me he apparently is incapable of or perhaps too immature to understand that “good citizenship” requires not undermining but “caring about the facts” and “caring about safeguarding Democracy” which means respecting law and order and our judicial system” and “accepting the decisions of juries of our peers” even though he may not like the outcome.

]]> By: G. Sada https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140262 G. Sada Mon, 03 Jun 2024 23:03:30 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140262 In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140261">G. Sada</a>. Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to "commit another crime" or "aid or conceal" another crime when falsifying records. In Trump's case, prosecutors said that other crime was a violation of a New York election law that makes it illegal for "any two or more persons" to "conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means," as Justice Juan Merchan explained in his instructions to the jury. In reply to G. Sada.

Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to “commit another crime” or “aid or conceal” another crime when falsifying records.

In Trump’s case, prosecutors said that other crime was a violation of a New York election law that makes it illegal for “any two or more persons” to “conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means,” as Justice Juan Merchan explained in his instructions to the jury.

]]> By: G. Sada https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140261 G. Sada Mon, 03 Jun 2024 23:01:28 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140261 In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140173">Cari ODell</a>. Cari, Maybe you should stop watching only FoxNews and learn the facts! Trump said the money paid to Stormy Daniels was for "legal expenses" which was completely false, it was to reimburse his then attorney for the money paid to Daniels to keep her quiet before the election in 2016. See this article with proof and facts and not propaganda you are watching or listening to: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/ In reply to Cari ODell.

Cari,
Maybe you should stop watching only FoxNews and learn the facts! Trump said the money paid to Stormy Daniels was for “legal expenses” which was completely false, it was to reimburse his then attorney for the money paid to Daniels to keep her quiet before the election in 2016. See this article with proof and facts and not propaganda you are watching or listening to:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/

]]> By: Bob https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140252 Bob Mon, 03 Jun 2024 17:35:10 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140252 Cari......please explain the "questionable people not reporting facts". What people? What facts? This is a constant chorus with the MAGA crowd. Make a lot of accusations but don't follow them up with facts. Cari……please explain the “questionable people not reporting facts”. What people? What facts? This is a constant chorus with the MAGA crowd. Make a lot of accusations but don’t follow them up with facts.

]]> By: Cari ODell https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140173 Cari ODell Fri, 31 May 2024 06:18:48 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140173 Barbara, wouldn't you like to know if taxes were paid on the so called "hush money". You seem very determined to tear Mr. Trump apart, yet there are questionable people NOT reporting facts....GET YOURS STRAIGHT SISTER! Barbara, wouldn’t you like to know if taxes were paid on the so called “hush money”. You seem very determined to tear Mr. Trump apart, yet there are questionable people NOT reporting facts….GET YOURS STRAIGHT SISTER!

]]> By: Barbara Kane https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2024/05/30/guilty/#comment-140168 Barbara Kane Fri, 31 May 2024 02:43:58 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=47938#comment-140168 Those who believe in the rule of law, believe in this country's judicial system, and in the validity of trials by jury, this verdict will be accepted. It is not necessary to like or even agree with the outcome but if we are to continue to live in a democracy and have a country whose judicial system is built on the premises that no man is above the law then do not undermine law and order by claiming falsely that the jury, the judge and our courts were rigged. To do so is quite telling; elected Republican party members or anyone else for that matter who openly agree with Trump's whiny petty pitiful cries are no longer bothering to pretend that they support and respect the rule of law of our country. Of course, this isn't surprising as we were made quite aware of this fact by those who either cheered or denied or minimized the attack on our nation's capital. Those who believe in the rule of law, believe in this country’s judicial system, and in the validity of trials by jury, this verdict will be accepted. It is not necessary to like or even agree with the outcome but if we are to continue to live in a democracy and have a country whose judicial system is built on the premises that no man is above the law then do not undermine law and order by claiming falsely that the jury, the judge and our courts were rigged. To do so is quite telling; elected Republican party members or anyone else for that matter who openly agree with Trump’s whiny petty pitiful cries are no longer bothering to pretend that they support and respect the rule of law of our country. Of course, this isn’t surprising as we were made quite aware of this fact by those who either cheered or denied or minimized the attack on our nation’s capital.

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