Comments on: Students Deserve Benefits: The Case for Universal Basic Income in Ivanhoe, https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/ In-depth, locally-produced coverage of the Central Valley. Tue, 28 Apr 2026 21:23:09 -0700 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Dirty Stinking Leftist https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-137267 Dirty Stinking Leftist Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:26:50 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-137267 UBI is only effective if the financing is coming from the upper classes. Middle and working class Americans will never support it if it increases their taxes, nor should they be expected to pay for it. UBI necessitates a huge redistribution of wealth from the upper classes, and this money is much better spent by working class Americans who will circulate it through the economy. Mass accumulations of wealth are only acquired through exploitation and are the enemy of American freedom and meritocracy UBI is only effective if the financing is coming from the upper classes. Middle and working class Americans will never support it if it increases their taxes, nor should they be expected to pay for it. UBI necessitates a huge redistribution of wealth from the upper classes, and this money is much better spent by working class Americans who will circulate it through the economy. Mass accumulations of wealth are only acquired through exploitation and are the enemy of American freedom and meritocracy

]]> By: Russell Barnes https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-136850 Russell Barnes Mon, 08 Jan 2024 17:53:24 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-136850 No one deserves anything for free. Somebody has to pay for it. Taxpayers that works very hard every day for their families. No one deserves anything for free. Somebody has to pay for it. Taxpayers that works very hard every day for their families.

]]> By: Valley Voice Reader https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134823 Valley Voice Reader Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:08:31 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-134823 In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134766">timothy bianco</a>. That was our world, life WAS harder for most, it was a world of live and learn. The children of the greatest generation had more than their parents ever did. The children of the baby boomers (my generation) had more than their parents ever did ..... and each generation since has had more given to them, both materially and financially. Thanks to the internet everyone has access to educational materials and online classes at education institutions. If you don't own a computer or cell phone there are public libraries with free access to computers. If something isn't worth working for, fighting for, sacrificing for but given free it won't be valued as much. I'm not saying it won't be appreciated to some degree, but for most it won't be "valued" as much. Just my opinion. In reply to timothy bianco.

That was our world, life WAS harder for most, it was a world of live and learn. The children of the greatest generation had more than their parents ever did. The children of the baby boomers (my generation) had more than their parents ever did ….. and each generation since has had more given to them, both materially and financially. Thanks to the internet everyone has access to educational materials and online classes at education institutions. If you don’t own a computer or cell phone there are public libraries with free access to computers. If something isn’t worth working for, fighting for, sacrificing for but given free it won’t be valued as much. I’m not saying it won’t be appreciated to some degree, but for most it won’t be “valued” as much. Just my opinion.

]]> By: timothy bianco https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134766 timothy bianco Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:45:05 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-134766 You have to work. If you have a disability and can't then--- the government will help you with:ssi, food stamps, cheap housing, health care etc. Minimum wage is like $20 hr in fast food. You have to live with friends or family if you cant make it on your own and that will also help them too. Life isn't fair. Some people are: born into wealth, poverty or have nobody but themselves. One thing you can't do is-- drink, do drugs, gamble, get a criminal record or have kids unless your financially stable because thats a ticket to the poor house for sure. some people make a lot of money and are broke and some minimum wage and build wealth. my late mother was a single mother in the 1950s with 2 babies to feed and at that time women were discriminated against and there was no food stamps or really any government help. And, her husband at the time went to prison and had to live with the guilt and shame in a small town. if my late mother could do-- it anybody can. You have to work. If you have a disability and can’t then— the government will help you with:ssi, food stamps, cheap housing, health care etc. Minimum wage is like $20 hr in fast food. You have to live with friends or family if you cant make it on your own and that will also help them too. Life isn’t fair. Some people are: born into wealth, poverty or have nobody but themselves. One thing you can’t do is– drink, do drugs, gamble, get a criminal record or have kids unless your financially stable because thats a ticket to the poor house for sure. some people make a lot of money and are broke and some minimum wage and build wealth. my late mother was a single mother in the 1950s with 2 babies to feed and at that time women were discriminated against and there was no food stamps or really any government help. And, her husband at the time went to prison and had to live with the guilt and shame in a small town. if my late mother could do– it anybody can.

]]> By: Valley Voice Reader https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134710 Valley Voice Reader Mon, 09 Oct 2023 03:37:08 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-134710 In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134447">Giovany Ban Sanchez</a>. The simple truth is that Dave M calls everyone stupid. He is an angry narcissist who thinks he is right and anyone else is wrong. You wrote a thought-provoking article, and I am sure it will generate many differing opinions. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, ideas and concerns with the readers. Any opinion worth having is an opinion worth sharing. In reply to Giovany Ban Sanchez.

The simple truth is that Dave M calls everyone stupid. He is an angry narcissist who thinks he is right and anyone else is wrong. You wrote a thought-provoking article, and I am sure it will generate many differing opinions. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, ideas and concerns with the readers. Any opinion worth having is an opinion worth sharing.

]]> By: Giovany Ban Sanchez https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134448 Giovany Ban Sanchez Mon, 02 Oct 2023 19:01:26 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-134448 Look up bill AB-2712 California Basis Income. Look up bill AB-2712 California Basis Income.

]]> By: Giovany Ban Sanchez https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-134447 Giovany Ban Sanchez Mon, 02 Oct 2023 18:56:04 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-134447 What aweful thing to say to person you dont know. Stupid is calling people stupid for simply for no reason. It's ok though I always say, negatives come from negatives. I mean c'mon look at how this person without even knowing anything about me is willing to say something like that. Its testimony that there is something wrong. I mean the fact is, that we are already getting funding usurped from our paycheck, why not put it back in your pocket? We make 23+$ trillion a year and it would cost 7 trillion ~ for a UBI program and 3.6 trillion free health care system and 1 trillion for free education from preschool to university. We would still have enough for military , infrastructure, government funding, etc. I could be wrong but it's just my opinion. Look up the info yourself sherlock. What aweful thing to say to person you dont know. Stupid is calling people stupid for simply for no reason. It’s ok though I always say, negatives come from negatives. I mean c’mon look at how this person without even knowing anything about me is willing to say something like that. Its testimony that there is something wrong. I mean the fact is, that we are already getting funding usurped from our paycheck, why not put it back in your pocket? We make 23+$ trillion a year and it would cost 7 trillion ~ for a UBI program and 3.6 trillion free health care system and 1 trillion for free education from preschool to university. We would still have enough for military , infrastructure, government funding, etc. I could be wrong but it’s just my opinion. Look up the info yourself sherlock.

]]> By: Dave M https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2023/09/11/students-deserve-benefits-the-case-for-universal-basic-income-in-ivanhoe/#comment-133947 Dave M Tue, 19 Sep 2023 20:08:31 +0000 https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=44999#comment-133947 So how much of your own income are you willing to give up? The simple truth is that you are just plain stupid! So how much of your own income are you willing to give up? The simple truth is that you are just plain stupid!

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