Flavors in ENDS came from Mom and Pop shops that sprang up as vapers learned quitting smoking could be easy if they found flavoring that appealed to their senses more so than chemical draw of smoking a combustible cigarettes.

It wasn’t until about 4 years into the ENDS industry gaining ground through small American businesses that big tobacco got interested and started buying companies like Blu and Logic and came out with their own versions like Vuse.

You average non-smokers think you know about vaping from just a couple of news articles, but you know nothing of the history. I’ve been vaping nicotine for 10 years now. I quit smoking with vaping after 14 years of smoking. I’ve been vaping almost as long as I had smoked. I owned an online shop for a little while and had my own e-liquid line. I’ve been mixing eliquid since I started vaping, because I could customize the taste for my preference and could mix recipes that other people loved too. I prefer more realistic tasting recipes that are not laden with sweetener. In fact I hate sweetener.

Youth that are just experimenting with ENDS products aren’t doing it for the flavors. At this point the experimentation crowd are doing it for the nicotine buzz you get from 59mg nicotine salts. That wasn’t even available before 2015! Before Juul the youth that were using ENDS were more likely to use open tank devices with 12mg or 6mg regular nicotine to GET OFF SMOKING! Even now the youth in the trying to quit smoking (cause they are already using combustible cigarettes) are still using open system refillable devices, some are using regular nicotine in reasonable strengths like 12mg or 6mg. Some are using 35mg nicotine salts.

If parents and the government couldn’t and haven’t stopped teen use of combustible cigarettes for all these years and there was no decline in youth smoking rates until vaping caught on with them, how do you people believe the government banning stuff is going to stop youth vaping? And quit frankly do we want to stop it? The alternative is all those kids who are experimenting with nicotine from a device that is 95% safer than cigarettes are going to go back to experimenting with Cigarettes!

At the same time bans are going to send a lot of less dedicated vapers back to smoking and the dedicated vapers who refuse to go back will be forced to buy black market e-liquid or will have to learn to mix their own. While mixing your own e-liquid is not dangerous if you have just a basic understanding and know where to buy your supplies for proper eliquid making, there are a lot of people who aren’t involved in the online vaping community who will do some stupid things like mixing table salt into their nicotine base thinking that is what makes it nicotine salts or using grocery store flavoring extracts which may contain oils in them, rather than using the food safe artificial and natural flavorings that are industry standard, simply because they don’t know any better.

So to vapers who are in these idiotic authoritarian dictatorship states and you want to learn how to mix your own, seek out the online community on Facebook and youtube, we are here to help you learn the proper way to mix with which flavorings are safe and how to measure everything out. We really don’t want people doing unsafe things like using oil based flavorings or trying to extract flavors at home out of food stuff.

But this is what you people are forcing current vapers (ex-smokers) to do in order to not go back to smoking. So understand that it is on your heads if people get sick from black market sold ENDS products or because they are mixing bad ingredients at home. That’s on you people not the vaping industry.

Your bans won’t stop teens from experimenting for the nic buzz. It will send a lot of teens who had been smoking back to using cigarettes and it’s going to send a lot of vapers back to smoking and may cause a black market along with desperate vapers looking for any way to continue using the flavors that keep them from wanting to like up a cancer stick. You are shutting down businesses that employ thousands of people in this depressed economy, hiring families who are trying to earn a living.

Your moral good deed that you feel like you are doing has way more negative unintended consequences that put your moral good deed at a -10,000 points in the grand scheme of doing good in this world.

Wake up folks. This is a political move to get the average non smoker to agree with their bans. This is about tax money and MSA payments to the states from Big Tobacco that they are losing every year out of their general budgets and now they want to crush the industry that is getting people off smoking and draining the pool of money the states have been used to swimming in. You are all useful ignorant people to the states and are being manipulated into believing there is an emergency and an epidemic of vaping and that it’s harming people. There is no proof or evidence backing up any claim of harm in those using ENDS products. The deaths are illicit THC and CBD used in concentrated vaping form. Can you stop the illicit THC market with a flavor ban? Certainly not.

It’s not nicotine vaping making people sick, it’s black market THC cartridges.

Nicotine vaping should have been the greatest public health win in more than 100 years. It’s the single most effective smoking cessation device ever created. And the government killed it to protect big Pharma and tobacco tax profits.

Well done morons.