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	<title>Comments on: Letter: “Life” versus “Choice” &#8211; Beyond the Rhetoric</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Williams</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-88463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14235&quot;&gt;Billy Stanfield&lt;/a&gt;.

100% of women... and spineless men regret their abortions on judgment day. The ones who repent and beg for forgiveness for having killed their own family members will be ever grateful to God for His great mercy and how He delights to heal and make whole again.
Those who don&#039;t will be told.&quot;Depart from.Me you cursed into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14235">Billy Stanfield</a>.</p>
<p>100% of women&#8230; and spineless men regret their abortions on judgment day. The ones who repent and beg for forgiveness for having killed their own family members will be ever grateful to God for His great mercy and how He delights to heal and make whole again.<br />
Those who don&#8217;t will be told.&#8221;Depart from.Me you cursed into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14355</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14343&quot;&gt;electric woman&lt;/a&gt;.

No compassionate conservative Republican or conservative Democrat will commit and fund money for women and children&#039;s total healthcare coverage.  Too many with the attitude &quot;I&#039;ve got mine....now go get your own&quot;. Yet these same people will &quot;demand&quot; control over a woman&#039;s uterus all the while not taking any responsibility in providing care and welfare services for the woman/child during pregnancy and after giving birth.  As affluent as America is....our government is lacking when it comes to the needs, concerns, and welfare toward the very least of its citizens.  In short, America&#039;s government doesn&#039;t seem to value people&#039;s lives very much. Talking the talk is nothing if they don&#039;t walk the walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14343">electric woman</a>.</p>
<p>No compassionate conservative Republican or conservative Democrat will commit and fund money for women and children&#8217;s total healthcare coverage.  Too many with the attitude &#8220;I&#8217;ve got mine&#8230;.now go get your own&#8221;. Yet these same people will &#8220;demand&#8221; control over a woman&#8217;s uterus all the while not taking any responsibility in providing care and welfare services for the woman/child during pregnancy and after giving birth.  As affluent as America is&#8230;.our government is lacking when it comes to the needs, concerns, and welfare toward the very least of its citizens.  In short, America&#8217;s government doesn&#8217;t seem to value people&#8217;s lives very much. Talking the talk is nothing if they don&#8217;t walk the walk.</p>
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		<title>By: electric woman</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14343</link>
		<dc:creator>electric woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2018 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we could focus on better medical conditions for women and children.

American children are almost twice as likely to die in the first five years of life as British children. The US has the highest rate of child mortality in the developed world. (Please note that the vast majority of developed countries, including the UK, measure infant mortality in exactly the same way as the US.) www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/09/08/438657898/how-many-children-under-5-die-a-year-in-the-u-s-vs-angola 

“An American woman is about five times as likely to die in pregnancy or childbirth as a British woman — partly because Britain makes a determined effort to save mothers’ lives, and we don’t.” 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/opinion/sunday/texas-childbirth-maternal-mortality.html 

“The United States was also one of only 13 countries to have worse rates of maternal mortality in 2015 than in 1990 – a group that also includes North Korea, Zimbabwe and Venezuela.” Women in America are now twice as likely to die from childbirth as they were 25 years ago.” 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-health-pregnancy-idUSKCN0T10LO20151112#fE4cLCCbtrgVEwhu.97</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we could focus on better medical conditions for women and children.</p>
<p>American children are almost twice as likely to die in the first five years of life as British children. The US has the highest rate of child mortality in the developed world. (Please note that the vast majority of developed countries, including the UK, measure infant mortality in exactly the same way as the US.) <a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/09/08/438657898/how-many-children-under-5-die-a-year-in-the-u-s-vs-angola" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/09/08/438657898/how-many-children-under-5-die-a-year-in-the-u-s-vs-angola</a> </p>
<p>“An American woman is about five times as likely to die in pregnancy or childbirth as a British woman — partly because Britain makes a determined effort to save mothers’ lives, and we don’t.”<br />
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/opinion/sunday/texas-childbirth-maternal-mortality.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/opinion/sunday/texas-childbirth-maternal-mortality.html</a> </p>
<p>“The United States was also one of only 13 countries to have worse rates of maternal mortality in 2015 than in 1990 – a group that also includes North Korea, Zimbabwe and Venezuela.” Women in America are now twice as likely to die from childbirth as they were 25 years ago.”<br />
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-health-pregnancy-idUSKCN0T10LO20151112#fE4cLCCbtrgVEwhu.97" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-health-pregnancy-idUSKCN0T10LO20151112#fE4cLCCbtrgVEwhu.97</a></p>
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		<title>By: Words Matter</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14334</link>
		<dc:creator>Words Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2018 00:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#062; Based on the studies I seen, post-abortion regret occurs in around 80% of the cases.

Is it possible that you are cherry picking what you read? 

I&#039;ll be happy to help you find peer reviewed studies on the matter if you will be happy to keep an open mind about what you might learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Based on the studies I seen, post-abortion regret occurs in around 80% of the cases.</p>
<p>Is it possible that you are cherry picking what you read? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to help you find peer reviewed studies on the matter if you will be happy to keep an open mind about what you might learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah J</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14302</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the people who want to control our bodies are still pushing this fake &quot;women are victims&quot; narrative?
Wow.  Just wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the people who want to control our bodies are still pushing this fake &#8220;women are victims&#8221; narrative?<br />
Wow.  Just wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14277</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take issue that teens or women of any age are being coerced into an unwanted abortion. The majority of the people who are probably doing the coercing are those who belong to these extreme prolife organizations. The vast majorities of those who seek abortions are very much aware of the alternative options available to them and have made a very private and personal decision to terminate the pregnancy due to their individual circumstances.  As for counseling or information about alternatives they need to look no further than Planned Parenthood.  

Planned Parenthood offers the following services, just like you receive from your local doctor and/or hospital.  Birth control for both men and women; General Health Care for both men and women; LGBT Service;: HIV Services; STD Screening and Treatment; Pregnancy Screening; Cancer Screenings; Pelvic Exams; Mammograms; Pregnancy information are thoroughly discussed which includes information about abortions  AND alternative options which includes adoption agencies, possible child placement with relative/family member, etc. Planned Parenthood also offers counseling as well as providing information of other counseling agencies. The number of abortions performed is less than 2% of all the services that they give.  

Planned Parenthood does what many extreme conservative politicians and anti-abortion fanatics won’t do.  While they demand they have the right to control a woman’s uterus/womb they do not provide financial and physical help to the mother and child once the baby is born.  Planned Parenthood gives options and access to real help and information.  Once a baby is born they don’t abandon the baby or mother, they help find real viable assistance for them.  And just as important, from the moment you enter their doors they do not judge you but treat all individuals with compassion and respect.   If Tulare-Kings Right to Life is as kind and helpful without coercing and being judgmental as you posted then that is another alternative that is available and I respect all that your organization does to “help”.  Glad to know that your organization is there to provide another viable alternative.  We as a society need all hands on deck helping one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take issue that teens or women of any age are being coerced into an unwanted abortion. The majority of the people who are probably doing the coercing are those who belong to these extreme prolife organizations. The vast majorities of those who seek abortions are very much aware of the alternative options available to them and have made a very private and personal decision to terminate the pregnancy due to their individual circumstances.  As for counseling or information about alternatives they need to look no further than Planned Parenthood.  </p>
<p>Planned Parenthood offers the following services, just like you receive from your local doctor and/or hospital.  Birth control for both men and women; General Health Care for both men and women; LGBT Service;: HIV Services; STD Screening and Treatment; Pregnancy Screening; Cancer Screenings; Pelvic Exams; Mammograms; Pregnancy information are thoroughly discussed which includes information about abortions  AND alternative options which includes adoption agencies, possible child placement with relative/family member, etc. Planned Parenthood also offers counseling as well as providing information of other counseling agencies. The number of abortions performed is less than 2% of all the services that they give.  </p>
<p>Planned Parenthood does what many extreme conservative politicians and anti-abortion fanatics won’t do.  While they demand they have the right to control a woman’s uterus/womb they do not provide financial and physical help to the mother and child once the baby is born.  Planned Parenthood gives options and access to real help and information.  Once a baby is born they don’t abandon the baby or mother, they help find real viable assistance for them.  And just as important, from the moment you enter their doors they do not judge you but treat all individuals with compassion and respect.   If Tulare-Kings Right to Life is as kind and helpful without coercing and being judgmental as you posted then that is another alternative that is available and I respect all that your organization does to “help”.  Glad to know that your organization is there to provide another viable alternative.  We as a society need all hands on deck helping one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Stanfield</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14255</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Stanfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2018 13:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed your link to &quot;theunchoice&quot;.  When it referenced an 80% figure, it cited Vincent M. Rue, Ph.D.  Here is an excerpt from a Wikipedia page on the man:

In 1992, Rue&#039;s testimony in the Planned Parenthood v. Casey case was thrown out by a district judge, who concluded that it was &quot;not credible.&quot;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Rue

Unfortunately, I am unable to have discussions in a framework that seems dishonest, so I leave the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed your link to &#8220;theunchoice&#8221;.  When it referenced an 80% figure, it cited Vincent M. Rue, Ph.D.  Here is an excerpt from a Wikipedia page on the man:</p>
<p>In 1992, Rue&#8217;s testimony in the Planned Parenthood v. Casey case was thrown out by a district judge, who concluded that it was &#8220;not credible.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Rue" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Rue</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, I am unable to have discussions in a framework that seems dishonest, so I leave the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: JP Prichard</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14242</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Prichard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the studies I seen, post-abortion regret occurs in around 80% of the cases.

In the only study I&#039;ve seen regarding women that have been unable to obtain abortions that they were actively seeking, 95% changed their minds about wanting the child by the time they gave birth.  So 1 in 20 - I pray they reach out to get the assistance they need.

Here are links to a few dozen studies/articles addressing the topic of abortion regret/trauma:

http://www.theunchoice.com/psychological.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the studies I seen, post-abortion regret occurs in around 80% of the cases.</p>
<p>In the only study I&#8217;ve seen regarding women that have been unable to obtain abortions that they were actively seeking, 95% changed their minds about wanting the child by the time they gave birth.  So 1 in 20 &#8211; I pray they reach out to get the assistance they need.</p>
<p>Here are links to a few dozen studies/articles addressing the topic of abortion regret/trauma:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theunchoice.com/psychological.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theunchoice.com/psychological.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Billy Stanfield</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/07/19/25486/#comment-14235</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Stanfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very glad that JP Pritchard can be there for the 5% of women who regret their abortion.  I imagine there are those who regret their decision to give birth, and I hope they have similar resources.

http://time.com/3956781/women-abortion-regret-reproductive-health/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very glad that JP Pritchard can be there for the 5% of women who regret their abortion.  I imagine there are those who regret their decision to give birth, and I hope they have similar resources.</p>
<p><a href="http://time.com/3956781/women-abortion-regret-reproductive-health/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://time.com/3956781/women-abortion-regret-reproductive-health/</a></p>
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