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		<title>By: Dbugnag</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-14153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dbugnag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2018 03:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saul and Barbara 

Thought of you two as I read link below.  Although I do not agree 100 percent with author, she makes some great points.  You may learn something, as I did.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/07/09/democratic-party-left-me-column/766561002/</description>
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<p>Thought of you two as I read link below.  Although I do not agree 100 percent with author, she makes some great points.  You may learn something, as I did.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/07/09/democratic-party-left-me-column/766561002/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/07/09/democratic-party-left-me-column/766561002/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-14031</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2018 15:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definition of Devin Nunes and his fellow Trump supporters:  &quot;There is no lie about Clinton/Obama they won&#039;t believe and no truth about Trump they will accept.&quot; At a minimum they will downplay the importance is the Senate Intelligence Committee but more than likely they will outright refute it.  Crazy Trumplicans ….. they don&#039;t know whether to wind their butts or scratch their watches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definition of Devin Nunes and his fellow Trump supporters:  &#8220;There is no lie about Clinton/Obama they won&#8217;t believe and no truth about Trump they will accept.&#8221; At a minimum they will downplay the importance is the Senate Intelligence Committee but more than likely they will outright refute it.  Crazy Trumplicans ….. they don&#8217;t know whether to wind their butts or scratch their watches.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Travers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2018 02:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, the Senate Intelligence Committee quietly released a report in which they confirmed that Russia influenced the election on behalf of Trump.  For some reason, House Intel Committee Charman Devin Nunes couldn&#039;t find any evidence to report on.  Klown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, the Senate Intelligence Committee quietly released a report in which they confirmed that Russia influenced the election on behalf of Trump.  For some reason, House Intel Committee Charman Devin Nunes couldn&#8217;t find any evidence to report on.  Klown.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Travers</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13939</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2018 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13928&quot;&gt;Dbugnag&lt;/a&gt;.

No, you didn&#039;t get a tax cut.  You got a $1 trillion dollar deficit.  They just rearranged the deck chairs on the SpendTanic. A true tax cut is accomplished by cutting spending on the bloated federal government. That money will get collected in the higher interest rates needed to contain inflation cause by deficit spending.  Add more inflation caused by stupid tariffs, and you will be worse off.
Nunes used to be merely ineffective, but now he has added Trumpian arrogance and lying to his resume.  I don&#039;t want anything bad for Nunes, I want something good for the constituents of the 22nd.  The people have a rogue employee who refuses to represent them.  They should fire him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13928">Dbugnag</a>.</p>
<p>No, you didn&#8217;t get a tax cut.  You got a $1 trillion dollar deficit.  They just rearranged the deck chairs on the SpendTanic. A true tax cut is accomplished by cutting spending on the bloated federal government. That money will get collected in the higher interest rates needed to contain inflation cause by deficit spending.  Add more inflation caused by stupid tariffs, and you will be worse off.<br />
Nunes used to be merely ineffective, but now he has added Trumpian arrogance and lying to his resume.  I don&#8217;t want anything bad for Nunes, I want something good for the constituents of the 22nd.  The people have a rogue employee who refuses to represent them.  They should fire him.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13935</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2018 14:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13928&quot;&gt;Dbugnag&lt;/a&gt;.

I was born in Tulare, raised and educated in Tulare, raised my children in Tulare, worked and retired in Tulare and I will no doubt die in Tulare.  I have no plans on moving away.  Thank you for solidifying my belief in what I wrote.  You couldn&#039;t have proven my point better.  Have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13928">Dbugnag</a>.</p>
<p>I was born in Tulare, raised and educated in Tulare, raised my children in Tulare, worked and retired in Tulare and I will no doubt die in Tulare.  I have no plans on moving away.  Thank you for solidifying my belief in what I wrote.  You couldn&#8217;t have proven my point better.  Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dbugnag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dbugnag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2018 04:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13897&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;/a&gt;.

Here is a epiphany; All politician are 
liars. To make my point, as Catherine asked in her article, hows is the blue wave working?   You do realize both of you were in the minority based on the last elections.  Our fellow constituents thought Nunes and Trump were the better candidates.  Majority wins Congress, Electoral College wins Presidency no matter badly you spin it.  No need to be bitter about it.  No need to be a hater.  As I said in the previous post, if do not like it, go vote.  The 20 percent turnout is a joke. 

@ Saul, Interesting how Nunes was so effective in the eyes of the media until he aligned with Trump, then refuses interviews as a result of erroneous okarticles, the media retaliates and goes on attacks against him, coincidence, I think not.  Prepare for another 2 years to be represented by Nunes.  Janz does not stand a chance.  I appreciate Nunes balance he brings to our area!

@ Barbara if you believe what you write, I pity you.  Quoting a hypocritrical self proclaimed pastor while comparing Trump to Hitler is pathetic.  It is desperation in an attempt to solidify your failed point.  More importantly, It is disrespectful to all who lived, died, and escaped Germany during the Holocaust. Not to mention, it is the fascist left whom desires dictatorships.  I took you for a self thinker, not someone who regurgitated a ridiculous old tired Nazi reference which began in 2016 from leftist in an attempt to scare people from voting for Trump. I see your still hellbent on Trump winning, that shines in your comment.  How that working for you? Is all the anger eating you up daily?   I return to pose the question to you: how is the blue wave working in your world?  In my world, I have watched 3.5 million people who have exited this state from 2010-2015, and another 143,000 last year alone.  Is that the result of good government representation in California Barbara and Saul, I think not? I have witnessed politicians steal our water, place 17 gallon per person water limits without anyone crying foul, proceed with a train to nowhere at who the hell knows what cost, only to tax, tax, and tax again.  This states representation is death by a thousand cuts, one legislative bill and tax at a time.  Look who has the super majority in both state assembly and house.  Look at the party in the governorship.  Go to San Fransisco. Is this what you desire; the weathly - living in million dollars homes, turning a blind eye to their local riddled streets lined with homeless and homeless camps, all while the smell of urine and feces fills the blue utopian air.  It is hypocrisy at it finest, better yet it fascism at its finest.  Yet you dare to compare Trump to Hitler and a Nazism, really?  It is sad you possess zero tolerance for those who have different views and ideologies, then cry foul, all while spewing false disrespectful hateful propaganda to make a lame argument. Sounds like you desire a mono-ideological utopia, led by elites democratics from LA and SF.  The same elites who take our money only to turn there backs on the SJV.  Turn their nose up to our way of life, and tax the crap out of us for living here.  Barbara why do you live in Tulare and complain, when what you desire is only three hours away?  The two governmental parties left me a long time ago.  I only desire the return of a state who has checks and balances, a state who has equal representation from whatever party affiliation, and a state which allows me to keep a good portion of my hard earned money...plain and simple.  Like the 3.5 million before me, one day I too will leave with my tax contributions, my business, my jobs which my business creates, my money, and become a statistic.  I wish all those left in the blue utopia State of California well.  As a native of this state and someone who works hard for ever penny, I am sick and tired of idiots in LA and SF voting to tax everything I do.  To quote Ronald Reagan &quot;Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”   I bet you, Saul, and I could sit down and we would agree on more items than not.  That is basis of my point, but no one can do that anymore.  Instead you compare Trump to Hitler, yet I do not recall you complaining when Obama was signing 277 executive orders and eliminating our civil liberties?  This is not a left or right, red or blue, Democrat or Republican, issue.  It is about all elected officials making a career out of screwing those of us in the middle class.  Go right ahead belittle the President of the United States, belittle a congressman because you disagree with their actions.  Get hellbent, that is your right.  But do not expect me to sit back and not call you out for wanting representation from those who have destroyed a state and stole my money all in the name taxation. Agree or disagree, Trump is moving forward with campaign promises. I find it refreshing to finally have a elected official do what he promised to do.  Coupled with I got a tax cut, Thank you Trump!

So with that said Barbara and Saul, go ahead and knock yourself out, align yourself with exactly what is wrong with this state,  desire ill fate on our district 22 official, and the President for anything and everything.  Drink the media coolaid. Hope that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.  To quote Kahlil Gibran, &quot; I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to those teachers.&quot; Ponder on that. We will end it there and agree to disagree.  

In parting, congratulations on your mayoral removal, that is a democracy at its FINEST....the great people of Tulare spoke, the residents were heard, and action was taken.  <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13897">Barbara</a>.</p>
<p>Here is a epiphany; All politician are<br />
liars. To make my point, as Catherine asked in her article, hows is the blue wave working?   You do realize both of you were in the minority based on the last elections.  Our fellow constituents thought Nunes and Trump were the better candidates.  Majority wins Congress, Electoral College wins Presidency no matter badly you spin it.  No need to be bitter about it.  No need to be a hater.  As I said in the previous post, if do not like it, go vote.  The 20 percent turnout is a joke. </p>
<p>@ Saul, Interesting how Nunes was so effective in the eyes of the media until he aligned with Trump, then refuses interviews as a result of erroneous okarticles, the media retaliates and goes on attacks against him, coincidence, I think not.  Prepare for another 2 years to be represented by Nunes.  Janz does not stand a chance.  I appreciate Nunes balance he brings to our area!</p>
<p>@ Barbara if you believe what you write, I pity you.  Quoting a hypocritrical self proclaimed pastor while comparing Trump to Hitler is pathetic.  It is desperation in an attempt to solidify your failed point.  More importantly, It is disrespectful to all who lived, died, and escaped Germany during the Holocaust. Not to mention, it is the fascist left whom desires dictatorships.  I took you for a self thinker, not someone who regurgitated a ridiculous old tired Nazi reference which began in 2016 from leftist in an attempt to scare people from voting for Trump. I see your still hellbent on Trump winning, that shines in your comment.  How that working for you? Is all the anger eating you up daily?   I return to pose the question to you: how is the blue wave working in your world?  In my world, I have watched 3.5 million people who have exited this state from 2010-2015, and another 143,000 last year alone.  Is that the result of good government representation in California Barbara and Saul, I think not? I have witnessed politicians steal our water, place 17 gallon per person water limits without anyone crying foul, proceed with a train to nowhere at who the hell knows what cost, only to tax, tax, and tax again.  This states representation is death by a thousand cuts, one legislative bill and tax at a time.  Look who has the super majority in both state assembly and house.  Look at the party in the governorship.  Go to San Fransisco. Is this what you desire; the weathly &#8211; living in million dollars homes, turning a blind eye to their local riddled streets lined with homeless and homeless camps, all while the smell of urine and feces fills the blue utopian air.  It is hypocrisy at it finest, better yet it fascism at its finest.  Yet you dare to compare Trump to Hitler and a Nazism, really?  It is sad you possess zero tolerance for those who have different views and ideologies, then cry foul, all while spewing false disrespectful hateful propaganda to make a lame argument. Sounds like you desire a mono-ideological utopia, led by elites democratics from LA and SF.  The same elites who take our money only to turn there backs on the SJV.  Turn their nose up to our way of life, and tax the crap out of us for living here.  Barbara why do you live in Tulare and complain, when what you desire is only three hours away?  The two governmental parties left me a long time ago.  I only desire the return of a state who has checks and balances, a state who has equal representation from whatever party affiliation, and a state which allows me to keep a good portion of my hard earned money&#8230;plain and simple.  Like the 3.5 million before me, one day I too will leave with my tax contributions, my business, my jobs which my business creates, my money, and become a statistic.  I wish all those left in the blue utopia State of California well.  As a native of this state and someone who works hard for ever penny, I am sick and tired of idiots in LA and SF voting to tax everything I do.  To quote Ronald Reagan &#8220;Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”   I bet you, Saul, and I could sit down and we would agree on more items than not.  That is basis of my point, but no one can do that anymore.  Instead you compare Trump to Hitler, yet I do not recall you complaining when Obama was signing 277 executive orders and eliminating our civil liberties?  This is not a left or right, red or blue, Democrat or Republican, issue.  It is about all elected officials making a career out of screwing those of us in the middle class.  Go right ahead belittle the President of the United States, belittle a congressman because you disagree with their actions.  Get hellbent, that is your right.  But do not expect me to sit back and not call you out for wanting representation from those who have destroyed a state and stole my money all in the name taxation. Agree or disagree, Trump is moving forward with campaign promises. I find it refreshing to finally have a elected official do what he promised to do.  Coupled with I got a tax cut, Thank you Trump!</p>
<p>So with that said Barbara and Saul, go ahead and knock yourself out, align yourself with exactly what is wrong with this state,  desire ill fate on our district 22 official, and the President for anything and everything.  Drink the media coolaid. Hope that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.  To quote Kahlil Gibran, &#8221; I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to those teachers.&#8221; Ponder on that. We will end it there and agree to disagree.  </p>
<p>In parting, congratulations on your mayoral removal, that is a democracy at its FINEST&#8230;.the great people of Tulare spoke, the residents were heard, and action was taken.  👏</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Martin Niemöller write today?

First Trump came for the women
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a woman.

Then Trump came for the people with disabilities
And I did not speak out
Because I did not have a disability.

Then Trump came for the African Americans
And I did not speak out
Because I was not African American.

Then Trump came for the Mexicans
And I did not speak out
Because I was not Mexican.

Then Trump came for the Muslims
And I did not speak out
Because I was not Muslim.

Then Trump came for the gay, bi, and trans people
And I did not speak out
Because I was not gay, bi or trans.

Then Trump came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.

Then Trump came for the journalists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a journalist.

Then Trump came for the judges
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a judge.

And now Trump is coming for the Constitution of the United States
And if I do not speak out, what am I?

You can keep silent DBugnag but I choose to exercise my responsibility as a citizen of the United States and speak out against those who are hell bent on destroying our government….even if that includes the person occupying the oval office in the White House and the Congressional District 22 Representative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Martin Niemöller write today?</p>
<p>First Trump came for the women<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not a woman.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the people with disabilities<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I did not have a disability.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the African Americans<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not African American.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the Mexicans<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not Mexican.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the Muslims<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not Muslim.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the gay, bi, and trans people<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not gay, bi or trans.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the Jews<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not a Jew.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the journalists<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not a journalist.</p>
<p>Then Trump came for the judges<br />
And I did not speak out<br />
Because I was not a judge.</p>
<p>And now Trump is coming for the Constitution of the United States<br />
And if I do not speak out, what am I?</p>
<p>You can keep silent DBugnag but I choose to exercise my responsibility as a citizen of the United States and speak out against those who are hell bent on destroying our government….even if that includes the person occupying the oval office in the White House and the Congressional District 22 Representative.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Travers</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13896</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2018 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of all, I am tired of being lied to by jerks.  An electorate that re-elects liars gets lied to.</description>
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		<title>By: Saul Travers</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13895</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2018 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13892&quot;&gt;Dbugnag&lt;/a&gt;.

My point is that Nunes is ineffective, and an arrogant boob who won&#039;t meet with his constituents.  He hasn&#039;t supported and worked with the one part of water infrastructure that actually matters - the ability to move water from the north where it exists to the south where it doesn&#039;t.  Instead, he stirs up culture war bullshit and pretends that it might actually be an option to ruin the Delta or completely dry up rivers in violation of laws that are older than electric pumps.  His lame Intelligence Committee report can&#039;t find any evidence of Russian interference when every intelligence agency can find it.  Nunes, as a House Member, has brought us a completely irresponsible budget that will add over a trillion dollars to the debt this year alone.
I am grateful for a great nation with competent leaders.  It&#039;s time to get rid of Nunes and Trump and let the competent leaders lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13892">Dbugnag</a>.</p>
<p>My point is that Nunes is ineffective, and an arrogant boob who won&#8217;t meet with his constituents.  He hasn&#8217;t supported and worked with the one part of water infrastructure that actually matters &#8211; the ability to move water from the north where it exists to the south where it doesn&#8217;t.  Instead, he stirs up culture war bullshit and pretends that it might actually be an option to ruin the Delta or completely dry up rivers in violation of laws that are older than electric pumps.  His lame Intelligence Committee report can&#8217;t find any evidence of Russian interference when every intelligence agency can find it.  Nunes, as a House Member, has brought us a completely irresponsible budget that will add over a trillion dollars to the debt this year alone.<br />
I am grateful for a great nation with competent leaders.  It&#8217;s time to get rid of Nunes and Trump and let the competent leaders lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Dbugnag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dbugnag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2018 04:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13887&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Saul and Barbara 

What exactly is your point? You both have to resort to name calling and degrading comments because your candidates did not win.  Truly pathetic...move on.  Trump is President and Nunes will be likely be reelected.  If you do not like it, get your fellow ideologist and go vote at greater numbers than 20 percent.  It is so sad certain populous of this nation desire enmity of our elected Congressman and President.  I do not care whether your Democratic or Republican, I do not wish any elected official any kind of failure, even if I do not share their political ideology.  This is the United States of America quit all the divisiveness, be grateful, humbled, and blessed for what we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/21/political-fix-21-june-2018/#comment-13887">Barbara</a>.</p>
<p>@ Saul and Barbara </p>
<p>What exactly is your point? You both have to resort to name calling and degrading comments because your candidates did not win.  Truly pathetic&#8230;move on.  Trump is President and Nunes will be likely be reelected.  If you do not like it, get your fellow ideologist and go vote at greater numbers than 20 percent.  It is so sad certain populous of this nation desire enmity of our elected Congressman and President.  I do not care whether your Democratic or Republican, I do not wish any elected official any kind of failure, even if I do not share their political ideology.  This is the United States of America quit all the divisiveness, be grateful, humbled, and blessed for what we have.</p>
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