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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of these comments are from Benny and his pseudonyms.  He trolls these pages.  He just does not have any allies who would defend him and lashes out at those who see him for the dimwit he is.  

The new board and the Citizens committee were left to deal with the ruins and did what they had to do to prevent even greater theft of public resources. That alone is a major accomplishment. The hospital closure was a foregone conclusion when Benny commenced his scheme to steal the hospital.  

The hospital will probably remain closed for some time to come.  The fact they are still maintaining staff is a charade and that should be stopped.  Benny has used a scorched earth policy of &quot;if I cant have it, no one can&quot;.  He has evil in his heart, there can be no disputing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of these comments are from Benny and his pseudonyms.  He trolls these pages.  He just does not have any allies who would defend him and lashes out at those who see him for the dimwit he is.  </p>
<p>The new board and the Citizens committee were left to deal with the ruins and did what they had to do to prevent even greater theft of public resources. That alone is a major accomplishment. The hospital closure was a foregone conclusion when Benny commenced his scheme to steal the hospital.  </p>
<p>The hospital will probably remain closed for some time to come.  The fact they are still maintaining staff is a charade and that should be stopped.  Benny has used a scorched earth policy of &#8220;if I cant have it, no one can&#8221;.  He has evil in his heart, there can be no disputing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 01:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line all of you....we will not know for years, yes years all the illegal things Kumar and Bensleasy did to the hospital a d therefore to this community! Get a grip. Did not see any of you brsintrust people stepping up and taking on this mess! Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line all of you&#8230;.we will not know for years, yes years all the illegal things Kumar and Bensleasy did to the hospital a d therefore to this community! Get a grip. Did not see any of you brsintrust people stepping up and taking on this mess! Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Geez people</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geez people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 02:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down fall of Tulare, 1 certain members of city counsel 2. Bell and cohorts 3.  Lack of new industries 4 . People not doing their homework when voting 5. Homelessness on almost every corner, massage palors everywhere ........  solution get involved , ask questions, educate yourself and dont vote for someone unless you know what they stand for ... then maybe Tulare will once again be a great little town ....frustrated Even though I disagree with you ...I do appreciate that you at least care,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down fall of Tulare, 1 certain members of city counsel 2. Bell and cohorts 3.  Lack of new industries 4 . People not doing their homework when voting 5. Homelessness on almost every corner, massage palors everywhere &#8230;&#8230;..  solution get involved , ask questions, educate yourself and dont vote for someone unless you know what they stand for &#8230; then maybe Tulare will once again be a great little town &#8230;.frustrated Even though I disagree with you &#8230;I do appreciate that you at least care,</p>
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		<title>By: Geez people</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geez people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 02:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No frustrated you are very wrong... the employees wanted HCCA exposed for the unethical people they are and that includes Kumar who has had his dirty little fingers in this for years . Really the hospital was doing better. How’s that? Inform me.... you have no clue what was going on at HCCA they wanted that hospital to fail, that hospital was losing money because of their incompetence and lawsuits and lack of confidence of the community, your anger is also misguided aim it at Bell, Wilbourn, Torres, Gadke and Kumar for signing on to the most insane contract imaginable! I guess you believe like Nancy Pelosi sign it ........then we will read it latter.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No frustrated you are very wrong&#8230; the employees wanted HCCA exposed for the unethical people they are and that includes Kumar who has had his dirty little fingers in this for years . Really the hospital was doing better. How’s that? Inform me&#8230;. you have no clue what was going on at HCCA they wanted that hospital to fail, that hospital was losing money because of their incompetence and lawsuits and lack of confidence of the community, your anger is also misguided aim it at Bell, Wilbourn, Torres, Gadke and Kumar for signing on to the most insane contract imaginable! I guess you believe like Nancy Pelosi sign it &#8230;&#8230;..then we will read it latter&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: frustrated</title>
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		<dc:creator>frustrated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 00:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13866&quot;&gt;Geez people&lt;/a&gt;.

Geez people,

Anyone that said anything against the new board is either a nurse, an ex employee, or Benny himself.  Get real.  The old board included Northcraft and Jamaica.  These two started the entire revolution to bring down the hospital.  The hospital was doing better until  2016, when they came along with their negativity to make the hospital to lose members and income.  These people do NOT represent all Tulareans. They are just more vocal
All of those who supported them to bring close the hospital are responsible for the down fall of Tulare...Loss of jobs, income, healthcare, and now realestate value.  How can you be so one sided and blind?  You choose to follow regardless of what is happening on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13866">Geez people</a>.</p>
<p>Geez people,</p>
<p>Anyone that said anything against the new board is either a nurse, an ex employee, or Benny himself.  Get real.  The old board included Northcraft and Jamaica.  These two started the entire revolution to bring down the hospital.  The hospital was doing better until  2016, when they came along with their negativity to make the hospital to lose members and income.  These people do NOT represent all Tulareans. They are just more vocal<br />
All of those who supported them to bring close the hospital are responsible for the down fall of Tulare&#8230;Loss of jobs, income, healthcare, and now realestate value.  How can you be so one sided and blind?  You choose to follow regardless of what is happening on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Geez people</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geez people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 22:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really people you just want it open no matter the circumstances. Well let your family members be the canary in the coal mine ! Me thinks the above comments are from staff trying to keep their jobs a little longer  ......and get something straight EH the old board started this mess, thank God this new board stopped the unsafe nonsense going on at HCCA, both of you have no idea what was going on at HCCA ......of course it’s always easy To be the Monday morning quarterback .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really people you just want it open no matter the circumstances. Well let your family members be the canary in the coal mine ! Me thinks the above comments are from staff trying to keep their jobs a little longer  &#8230;&#8230;and get something straight EH the old board started this mess, thank God this new board stopped the unsafe nonsense going on at HCCA, both of you have no idea what was going on at HCCA &#8230;&#8230;of course it’s always easy To be the Monday morning quarterback .</p>
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		<title>By: Be open</title>
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		<dc:creator>Be open</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 22:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13831&quot;&gt;angry&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow “ angry” the blames lands squarely on the shoulders of Bell,Wilbourn, Gadke, Torrrez ,Benny and Kumar..... that hospital was going to close one way or the other at least the board stopped another loan to be placed on the backs of the district.....I will say I hope that hospital does not open until it is prepared and ready to give quality care and have quality doctors  not the Rejects from the other hospitals in the area, a hospital is only as good as it’s staff more so than it’s leadership.  Kevin you have one chance to get it right ... please think outside the box !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13831">angry</a>.</p>
<p>Wow “ angry” the blames lands squarely on the shoulders of Bell,Wilbourn, Gadke, Torrrez ,Benny and Kumar&#8230;.. that hospital was going to close one way or the other at least the board stopped another loan to be placed on the backs of the district&#8230;..I will say I hope that hospital does not open until it is prepared and ready to give quality care and have quality doctors  not the Rejects from the other hospitals in the area, a hospital is only as good as it’s staff more so than it’s leadership.  Kevin you have one chance to get it right &#8230; please think outside the box !</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally concur with what been there has stated above. Tulare has been cursed with vocal folks who know nothing about healthcare, made poor decisions on management groups and goes after any group that comes in. So perhaps these entities see this pattern and don’t want to have to deal with an inept Board and loud mouthed dentists and someone who ran their healthcare business to bankruptcy. Get something opened, maybe the clinics without using the hospital license and get there own until they get someone in there like Dignity or Adventist, not sold on CMC if they have been there all along since Wipfli got there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally concur with what been there has stated above. Tulare has been cursed with vocal folks who know nothing about healthcare, made poor decisions on management groups and goes after any group that comes in. So perhaps these entities see this pattern and don’t want to have to deal with an inept Board and loud mouthed dentists and someone who ran their healthcare business to bankruptcy. Get something opened, maybe the clinics without using the hospital license and get there own until they get someone in there like Dignity or Adventist, not sold on CMC if they have been there all along since Wipfli got there</p>
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		<title>By: frustrated</title>
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		<dc:creator>frustrated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13839&quot;&gt;Been There&lt;/a&gt;.

Been there,

I cannot agree with you more. You are the voice of reason.  Thank you.

Time will tell that all the people who supported dumb, dumber, and dumbest will see that what they have done will destroy TRMC with no chance of recovery.  They are driven by hate not by logic and definitely not by what is good for our community.  Their egos are bigger than their IQs.  I hope the other two board member put some sense into them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/06/19/kaweah-delta-community-medical-centers-both-state-trmcs-october-reopening-date-unlikely/#comment-13839">Been There</a>.</p>
<p>Been there,</p>
<p>I cannot agree with you more. You are the voice of reason.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Time will tell that all the people who supported dumb, dumber, and dumbest will see that what they have done will destroy TRMC with no chance of recovery.  They are driven by hate not by logic and definitely not by what is good for our community.  Their egos are bigger than their IQs.  I hope the other two board member put some sense into them.</p>
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		<title>By: Been There</title>
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		<dc:creator>Been There</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two entities who need to be appeased before October. The CA Department of Public Health is one - they may or may not extend the license suspension. The second is OSHPD and they are the major reason this hospital has to open by October or it won&#039;t open at all. The current facility is grandfathered into seismic code that allows it to not meet current standards until sometime in the 2020&#039;s hence the need to build the tower. That grandfathering goes away if the hospital doesn&#039;t open in October. They will not waive seismic regulations and the current facility will not meet them. Period. Stop hoping for some perfect solution that will never come - get the damn hospital open in whatever capacity is possible with the minimum services required by the State (8 active services and ancillaries) and fix what you can when you can. CMC has been stringing the hospital along for months promising to take steps they never complete while member of citizens for hospitality accountability continue their ego driven scorched earth campaign and attempt to undermine the efforts of Wipfli to negotiate. Kevin Northcraft - who promised in board meetings that the hospital would be open in weeks knew CMC was not ready to step up - hence the reason he was so keen on getting an RFP out several board meetings ago when the rest of the board still had faith in CMC. His continued back channel efforts do nothing but serve his ridiculous ego and childish antics continue to casue nothing but ruin. Northcraft, Jamaica, and Senovia (dumb, dumber, and dumbest) and their evil puppet masters (Patricia &quot;Orin Scrivello&quot; Drilling and Deanne &quot;god-complex&quot; Martin-Soares) own this current fiasco and continue to do what they can to satisfy their own petty power-mongering. Their torch and pitchfork wielding minions who have literally no effing idea about how to operate or run a hospital need to all sit down shut up and recognize that they bit off way more than even their gaping maws can ever chew. 

Open the hospital with Adventist or Dignity - they will do it and have done it with worse situations. Stop letting your hope for the perfect destroy the potential good. Let Wipfli and Adventist or Dignity get this deal done or you can watch the Tower and the current facility turn into a monument to the enormity of stupidity and desire to tear everyone down that seems to infect Tulare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two entities who need to be appeased before October. The CA Department of Public Health is one &#8211; they may or may not extend the license suspension. The second is OSHPD and they are the major reason this hospital has to open by October or it won&#8217;t open at all. The current facility is grandfathered into seismic code that allows it to not meet current standards until sometime in the 2020&#8217;s hence the need to build the tower. That grandfathering goes away if the hospital doesn&#8217;t open in October. They will not waive seismic regulations and the current facility will not meet them. Period. Stop hoping for some perfect solution that will never come &#8211; get the damn hospital open in whatever capacity is possible with the minimum services required by the State (8 active services and ancillaries) and fix what you can when you can. CMC has been stringing the hospital along for months promising to take steps they never complete while member of citizens for hospitality accountability continue their ego driven scorched earth campaign and attempt to undermine the efforts of Wipfli to negotiate. Kevin Northcraft &#8211; who promised in board meetings that the hospital would be open in weeks knew CMC was not ready to step up &#8211; hence the reason he was so keen on getting an RFP out several board meetings ago when the rest of the board still had faith in CMC. His continued back channel efforts do nothing but serve his ridiculous ego and childish antics continue to casue nothing but ruin. Northcraft, Jamaica, and Senovia (dumb, dumber, and dumbest) and their evil puppet masters (Patricia &#8220;Orin Scrivello&#8221; Drilling and Deanne &#8220;god-complex&#8221; Martin-Soares) own this current fiasco and continue to do what they can to satisfy their own petty power-mongering. Their torch and pitchfork wielding minions who have literally no effing idea about how to operate or run a hospital need to all sit down shut up and recognize that they bit off way more than even their gaping maws can ever chew. </p>
<p>Open the hospital with Adventist or Dignity &#8211; they will do it and have done it with worse situations. Stop letting your hope for the perfect destroy the potential good. Let Wipfli and Adventist or Dignity get this deal done or you can watch the Tower and the current facility turn into a monument to the enormity of stupidity and desire to tear everyone down that seems to infect Tulare.</p>
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