Comments on: Tulare mayor hosts private townhall forum

By: Valley Voice recognized at California Journalism Awards - Valley Voice

Valley Voice recognized at California Journalism Awards - Valley Voice — Sun, 05 May 2019 20:55:29 +0000

[…] on the same day as former Tulare City Manager Joe Carlini, lawsuits filed for public records, controversial comments made by former Tulare Mayor Carlton Jones, and the beginning of an investigation into Tulare councilman Greg Nunley — among other […]

By: Tulare Citizen

Tulare Citizen — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 22:44:58 +0000

The soon to be ex-mayor set this meeting up and only allowed people that he agreed to and questions he was ok with? Is that accurate? Is that a town hall meeting? Ha. Nope not if he controls who attends and what they ask. Does not surprise me as he lacks the education, experience, integrity and intestinal fortitude to be confronted by people with intelligent questions of which he cannot provide an intelligent response to. He did not graduate college. Must have quit? He is not a quitter though? He never served in the military? He has never been a supervisor of a company or responsible for leading employees in a for profit environment. Has no clue how to manage a budget, employees, processes been accountable for such. We don’t need a self absorbed fireman leading a city. We need s saavy experiences business person with experience and one that has personal skills. He is an actor without s ting skills a small town wanna be politician that lacks integrity.

By: Speak truth

Speak truth — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 03:29:00 +0000

In reply to Thumbs Up to Tulare?.

Well said thumbs up…..

By: Catherine

Catherine — Mon, 04 Jun 2018 18:47:36 +0000

Truth in the Valley didn’t read their own article they linked. It is 360,000 throughout California, not the Valley. Quote from article says:

“The Brown administration, however, said the problem of unsafe water isn’t just agriculture’s fault, so farmers shouldn’t have to pay more than their fair share.”

By: Truth in the valley

Truth in the valley — Mon, 04 Jun 2018 09:33:00 +0000

Wht y’all so upset that the Mayor told the truth?

360,000 ppl in the valley can’t drink tapwater. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article211474679.html

When farmers are done using exploitative methods ro make a profit they will have ruined some of the worlds.best soil. We are #2 in n the nation for pollution.

Farmers are fracking us over with the way they farm

By: Thumbs Up to Tulare?

Thumbs Up to Tulare? — Mon, 04 Jun 2018 03:49:38 +0000

After enduring this so-called “town hall” meeting, I saw first-hand where experience, education, ethics, demeanor and vision are sorely lacking. This will be lengthy, but let us look at a few things which were touched on in this article:
1) “He hopes to hold more, and encouraged the audience to host their own and invite him.” Why should the citizens of Tulare pay money out of their own pockets to rent a facility to host a town hall, when the Mayor cannot take constructive criticism and only attempts to disparage the other person, and furthermore when he will not answer the relevant questions regarding the current City Council and City Hall atmosphere and his own wrongdoings? Also, why should people invite only him? There are four other councilmembers. It goes without saying that all of them cannot be there, due to a Brown Act violation, but still, the Mayor is not the end-all be-all of the city council.
2) “I was totally wrong in having a chess match with another dude…” “Another dude,” exactly how the citizens of Tulare want to hear their Mayor speak towards someone. That “dude” has a name, and even if you didn’t want to use his name out of privacy respect, “man” “person” or even “gentleman” could have been used. Yes, this may have been a private function, but the Mayor was still there representing his position as Mayor. It wasn’t a college party, so don’t act like it. Try and present yourself like a Mayor.
3) “This isn’t a public event. This is money that I took out of my own pocket to pay for this event. I took off of work because I really wanted to give people an opportunity to hear what my truth is and to answer any of your concerns as your representative,”
The message should have been relayed from the very beginning that it was a private and not a public function, which the Mayor was paying for. There were mixed signals from the very beginning, regarding if this was an official town hall where all people are allowed to attend, or not. The Mayor’s track record of distrust in the past with similar situations did not help matters; considering the Mayor has held an event on city property in the past and did not pay for it, nor abide by the same rules that all citizens have to adhere to when they hold a similar event. Furthermore, you do not get any pity points for telling people that you took off work in order to have the meeting. Because it was your meeting, you could have decided to hold it anytime that you wanted to. It’s not the people’s fault that you didn’t work it around your schedule and decided to take time off instead.
4) “That’s more of a slap to your face and to their connection to this community. That is such a horrible thing to say or do. I apologize that you guys would even have to go through that,” Jones said. “I wish they would have came here, just to get a better understanding. We have questions on both sides of this argument.” This is a classic example of trying to throw criticism back on to the critiquer to attempt to turn them into the “bad guy” and try and prop yourself up as the “good guy.” In this particular instance, these are individuals who have been working in and helping this town longer than the Mayor has been alive. And as such, they are trying to look out for the long-term best interests of this town, and realize that it will only get worse under the present leadership. Those individuals did not need to attend to get a better understanding; they already understand the Mayor’s tactics. The Mayor needs to realize that not only is internal commerce being jeopardized, but external commerce to Tulare is as well. When something like this occurs, an elected official needs to have an honest reality check with themselves and swallow their pride and do what is right for the future of the City, not what they feel is right for Themselves at the present moment.
5) “She just left. If they want to — see, you’re doing the let me count the punches that you’ve thrown at people, I’m gonna add them up — if someone wants to comment on something I’ve said, let them do that,” Jones told Avila. A classic example of deflection when backed into a corner. The Mayor apparently feels that it’s not fair to count the punches thrown to people so they can be added up, because in his case, when all of his punches at people and organizations (which happen to span many years as well as different cities) are added up, it is fair to say that in any other city across this land, that “number of punches” would be grounds for, at the very least, removal of office.
Which comes to the main question and final point. If any person, regardless of race, gender, experience in office, etc, would be removed from office in a heartbeat in other locales, why has it been allowed to continue and get worse here in Tulare? “He’s a good man,” “I see him in church,” “He’s coached my son,” etc, etc are all what I call emotional rationalizations, which are not good reasons to allow bad things to continue to happen. Nor is, “Give him a break, he’s still learning.” In any situation like this, as is the same with any job anywhere, the personal emotion has to be set aside, and the job-related facts are what need to be considered. Given Tulare’s current atmosphere, two councilmembers have a chance to finally begin writing some wrongs, which in their own way they are partly to blame for.

By: Tulare Citizen

Tulare Citizen — Mon, 04 Jun 2018 01:56:21 +0000

Carlton Jones must be recalled. Carlton Jones does not have the experience, education, ethics, demeanor and vision our community deserves from a mayor!! Our community has had enough of his unethical, incompetent attempt at leadership

By: Mizlillie

Mizlillie — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:31:56 +0000

The meeting was a joke! Xavier goes from participating in a recall meeting on Monday I believe to sitting on stage with that clown as if he is the voice for all farmers. Totally let down by Xavier, the conversations were all over the place and the mayor couldn’t remove his eyes from his phone! I will say that was a good attempt on the Mayors part to keep folks from going to council and telling him all about him. He is an embarrassment, a JOKE, a THUG, a THIEF, and a LIAR!!!! OH YEAH AND LETS NOT FORGET HE PULLED SIGALAS ITEM FROM AGENDA ON THURSDAY MORNING TO HAVE HIM REMOVED AS MAYOR!!! Face it CARLTON only you and your buddy JOE CARLINI want you!! He’s still hoping you force staffs hands at hiring him back at the Waste Water Treatment Plant! Hey Tulare how do you like that one!! Fires the city manager hours after city manager fires Wes Hensley to take away from his part in all of that! Now Carlton is trying to tell staff (this is true) how awesome Carlini would be back at waste water and really pushing for him to get re-hired!!!! The things we do to make others keep our secrets from coming out! WHATS DONE IN THE DARK SHALL COME TO LIGHT! so ya better wear shades!!

By: skeeter

skeeter — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:40:27 +0000

Recall Jones. If you need more reason to do that watch the Town Hall video again.He wasn’t paying attention to all speakers, he was worried about what was happening on his phone which was probably the live feed comments.He’s aggressive and mouthy and full of deceit. Google his name. Look at court records. He needs to go…#recallJones

By: Sandra Simpson

Sandra Simpson — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 14:14:37 +0000

We are a farming community, I was raised on dairy’s in and around Tulare. Carlton Jones has divided the City of Tulare and should be recalled.