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	<title>Comments on: The Wolf In the Woods? You&#8217;re Probably Voting For Him</title>
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		<title>By: CHJ</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12783</link>
		<dc:creator>CHJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m sorry but it feels like the same old song....villainize/defend guns. You’re discussion is different from Congress how? Why are guns not carried into court houses/airplanes etc? Means are taken to prevent it. Implement these at our schools! Set aside the arguments for a moment and let’s actually do something tangible to protect our students and staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sorry but it feels like the same old song&#8230;.villainize/defend guns. You’re discussion is different from Congress how? Why are guns not carried into court houses/airplanes etc? Means are taken to prevent it. Implement these at our schools! Set aside the arguments for a moment and let’s actually do something tangible to protect our students and staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Alten</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12782</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Alten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 15:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12773&quot;&gt;Luis F. Carrillo&lt;/a&gt;.

The argument that we should have no laws if people are going to break the laws is an argument for no laws at all.  Go live in Somalia for a while if that idea appeals to you.  Come back and tell us how that worked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12773">Luis F. Carrillo</a>.</p>
<p>The argument that we should have no laws if people are going to break the laws is an argument for no laws at all.  Go live in Somalia for a while if that idea appeals to you.  Come back and tell us how that worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Alten</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12781</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Alten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12771&quot;&gt;Marsha Maaske&lt;/a&gt;.

A &quot;baby&quot; is an autonomous being - separate from the mother after the umbilical cord is cut and breathing on its own.
A fetus (or a zygote) is a fertilized egg that might be developed into a baby if the mother carrying the fetus chooses to develop it to deliver and if nothing happens either naturally or medically to stop the development.
Abortion is stopping the development of the fetus before it becomes a baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12771">Marsha Maaske</a>.</p>
<p>A &#8220;baby&#8221; is an autonomous being &#8211; separate from the mother after the umbilical cord is cut and breathing on its own.<br />
A fetus (or a zygote) is a fertilized egg that might be developed into a baby if the mother carrying the fetus chooses to develop it to deliver and if nothing happens either naturally or medically to stop the development.<br />
Abortion is stopping the development of the fetus before it becomes a baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Alten</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12780</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Alten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12769&quot;&gt;Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo&lt;/a&gt;.

I was a member of the NRA, when they were about local education and partnering with the next generation.  But they became captured by the gun manufacturers, and Wayne LaPierre takes home $5 million to protect the merchants of death to Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12769">Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</a>.</p>
<p>I was a member of the NRA, when they were about local education and partnering with the next generation.  But they became captured by the gun manufacturers, and Wayne LaPierre takes home $5 million to protect the merchants of death to Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mahoney</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our elected representatives take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that they will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that they take their obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion.  And for a very long time they (both Republicans and Democrats) have refused to do their jobs.   If our elected representatives won’t do their jobs, we the voters need to replace them.

The Constitution, as spelled out in the preamble, is there to “insure domestic tranquility”; to “promote the general welfare”; and to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.”  Those are the most important parts of the Constitution and our elected representatives aren’t defending those rights.

What is “posterity” for the parents of the children massacred in so many places in this country? Where are the “blessings of liberty” for those who are killed in schools, churches, concerts, and public gatherings.  Where is the “domestic tranquility” for the relatives of the 10,000+ Americans murdered with a firearm in each of the last 4 years?  http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

In 2017, there were over 300 mass shootings in this country.  Does anyone really think that the mentally disturbed are the source of all the shootings, or that with proper treatment (or teachers packing guns) they can be stopped?  Everyone understands that we’re making more murderous people all the time – and mental defects aren’t the source of all problems.   http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-mass-shootings-in-america-las-vegas-shooting-2017-10

There is nothing religious or sacred about gun ownership, and it’s certainly not a God given right.  The 2nd Amendment was added after the Constitution was written and adopted.  The Constitution was designed to be amended to meet the needs of the country and it’s now time for that amendment.  It’s time to repeal the 2nd Amendment - then each of the 50 states can assert its “state’s right” and decide which guns can be sold in its jurisdiction and who can purchase them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our elected representatives take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that they will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that they take their obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion.  And for a very long time they (both Republicans and Democrats) have refused to do their jobs.   If our elected representatives won’t do their jobs, we the voters need to replace them.</p>
<p>The Constitution, as spelled out in the preamble, is there to “insure domestic tranquility”; to “promote the general welfare”; and to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.”  Those are the most important parts of the Constitution and our elected representatives aren’t defending those rights.</p>
<p>What is “posterity” for the parents of the children massacred in so many places in this country? Where are the “blessings of liberty” for those who are killed in schools, churches, concerts, and public gatherings.  Where is the “domestic tranquility” for the relatives of the 10,000+ Americans murdered with a firearm in each of the last 4 years?  <a href="http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls</a></p>
<p>In 2017, there were over 300 mass shootings in this country.  Does anyone really think that the mentally disturbed are the source of all the shootings, or that with proper treatment (or teachers packing guns) they can be stopped?  Everyone understands that we’re making more murderous people all the time – and mental defects aren’t the source of all problems.   <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-mass-shootings-in-america-las-vegas-shooting-2017-10" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-mass-shootings-in-america-las-vegas-shooting-2017-10</a></p>
<p>There is nothing religious or sacred about gun ownership, and it’s certainly not a God given right.  The 2nd Amendment was added after the Constitution was written and adopted.  The Constitution was designed to be amended to meet the needs of the country and it’s now time for that amendment.  It’s time to repeal the 2nd Amendment &#8211; then each of the 50 states can assert its “state’s right” and decide which guns can be sold in its jurisdiction and who can purchase them</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Oldenbourg</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12774</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Oldenbourg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12773&quot;&gt;Luis F. Carrillo&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m all for armed protection at schools--just not by the teachers themselves.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m all for armed protection at schools&#8211;just not by the teachers themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis F. Carrillo</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis F. Carrillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in your eyes, Congress should implement gun laws? Guns laws that make it illegal to possess certain types of guns? Do you actually think non-law abiding idiots are going to follow these laws. They will find a away.  How about making stricter laws if you commit a crime with a gun, instead of decriminalize it like Gov. Brown has done. 
You ask if it’s going to take a maniac to bust in to Congress and do a mass shooting.  Have you thought that is unlikely to happen? You know why? Because there is a lot of guns protecting them. So maybe instead of trying to take guns away, implement a something to where we have armed protection at schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in your eyes, Congress should implement gun laws? Guns laws that make it illegal to possess certain types of guns? Do you actually think non-law abiding idiots are going to follow these laws. They will find a away.  How about making stricter laws if you commit a crime with a gun, instead of decriminalize it like Gov. Brown has done.<br />
You ask if it’s going to take a maniac to bust in to Congress and do a mass shooting.  Have you thought that is unlikely to happen? You know why? Because there is a lot of guns protecting them. So maybe instead of trying to take guns away, implement a something to where we have armed protection at schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Oldenbourg</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12772</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Oldenbourg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12771&quot;&gt;Marsha Maaske&lt;/a&gt;.

Not that it&#039;s relevant, but please point out to me where I wrote that I&#039;m &quot;supporting abortion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12771">Marsha Maaske</a>.</p>
<p>Not that it&#8217;s relevant, but please point out to me where I wrote that I&#8217;m &#8220;supporting abortion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha Maaske</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsha Maaske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you have no problem supporting abortion which murders babies?  (And I’m not talking about when the life of the mother is in danger)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you have no problem supporting abortion which murders babies?  (And I’m not talking about when the life of the mother is in danger)</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Oldenbourg</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12770</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Oldenbourg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12769&quot;&gt;Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo&lt;/a&gt;.

Nobody is asking you to give up your 2nd Amendment right--indeed, as I wrote, it&#039;s settled law. At least regarding handguns. But nobody needs an assault rifle. And just because &quot;all politicians take this kind of money&quot; doesn&#039;t make it right. It&#039;s blood money, and I&#039;ll never consciously vote for any politician who accepts it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/02/25/wolf-woods-youre-probably-voting/#comment-12769">Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</a>.</p>
<p>Nobody is asking you to give up your 2nd Amendment right&#8211;indeed, as I wrote, it&#8217;s settled law. At least regarding handguns. But nobody needs an assault rifle. And just because &#8220;all politicians take this kind of money&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make it right. It&#8217;s blood money, and I&#8217;ll never consciously vote for any politician who accepts it.</p>
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