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	<title>Comments on: Tulare hospital seeks to invalidate Evolutions deed</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Northcraft</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12507</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Northcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12506&quot;&gt;EH&lt;/a&gt;.

Again you missed my point...the anonymity allows for one person to create the voice of many or paid public relations professionals to sway opinion with false facts. I’m not asking for anything but for the reader to take that into account when reading commentary. And you don’t need to explain to me about why people may want to remain anonymous. My family has been the target of the anonymous “friends” and paid professionals acting on behalf of HCCA with vicious and vile falsehoods and even threats...and it has only served to strengthen our resolve and insure that we will never lose sight of the long term goal of returning the hospital to the people it serves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12506">EH</a>.</p>
<p>Again you missed my point&#8230;the anonymity allows for one person to create the voice of many or paid public relations professionals to sway opinion with false facts. I’m not asking for anything but for the reader to take that into account when reading commentary. And you don’t need to explain to me about why people may want to remain anonymous. My family has been the target of the anonymous “friends” and paid professionals acting on behalf of HCCA with vicious and vile falsehoods and even threats&#8230;and it has only served to strengthen our resolve and insure that we will never lose sight of the long term goal of returning the hospital to the people it serves.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12506</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I appreciate your comments but for the same reason you stated that folks were trying to be looked up by friends or Google searches, is the very same reason people choose to post anonymously. The last two years has been bitter, down right nasty. Board members as well as People who worked for HCCA have families and whether there was or is agreement on an issue, to call people out specifically by name and throw out accusations is irresponsible. That I don&#039;t agree with. The Board by choosing to be part of an elected body, by choice put themselves into the fray. Employees didn&#039;t. That&#039;s the difference, they too have thoughts to share, not every poster who disagrees with this Board is Bennye. Yes, people can go to Board meetings and speak during public comment, but the Board cannot respond or take action. By placing comments in the VV, people know they won&#039;t get blocked on the Citizens Group page. VV created a safe forum for folks to dialogue, let&#039;s just have a little civility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I appreciate your comments but for the same reason you stated that folks were trying to be looked up by friends or Google searches, is the very same reason people choose to post anonymously. The last two years has been bitter, down right nasty. Board members as well as People who worked for HCCA have families and whether there was or is agreement on an issue, to call people out specifically by name and throw out accusations is irresponsible. That I don&#8217;t agree with. The Board by choosing to be part of an elected body, by choice put themselves into the fray. Employees didn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s the difference, they too have thoughts to share, not every poster who disagrees with this Board is Bennye. Yes, people can go to Board meetings and speak during public comment, but the Board cannot respond or take action. By placing comments in the VV, people know they won&#8217;t get blocked on the Citizens Group page. VV created a safe forum for folks to dialogue, let&#8217;s just have a little civility.</p>
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		<title>By: Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12505</link>
		<dc:creator>Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey is a Benny clonie and lloyd is related to her. Both have no clue and  have nothing better to do than to post negative things on here. Everyone has their options, but just consider your source when choosing what and who to believe. Because of Benny and Kumar the hospital is a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey is a Benny clonie and lloyd is related to her. Both have no clue and  have nothing better to do than to post negative things on here. Everyone has their options, but just consider your source when choosing what and who to believe. Because of Benny and Kumar the hospital is a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Northcraft</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12503</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Northcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I’ve learned from the campaign for and against Measure I and the election campaigns of Kevin Northcraft and Sherrie Bell, is that HCCA is effective at having a few people monitor social media and change the narrative of the article by posting negative comments and misinformation about the subject of the article and make it seem as though many people share that view. On Facebook the number of “fake” profiles to discredit and misinform was plentiful.  These profiles were easy to detect because the profiles had no “friends”, no photos, and often the profile picture was traceable using Google images.  It created the illusion that many in the community shared the same feeling, when in reality it was just a few people, including paid professionals.  Now that the hospital district has cut ties with HCCA one might assume that they no longer have any reason to cast doubt on the new board and direction of the district. However, the continuing legal filings, the leverage they may want to gain in negotiations, and for pure spite, I believe they are continuing this practice using the ability to comment anonymously on the Valley Voice website. I appreciate that the Voice allows for comment after its articles, but I do caution readers that the use of anonymous comments may be used to sway the reader’s perception.  I also think that if the Voice uses anonymous comments in their news articles, they have a responsibility to the reader to ascertain that these are not repetitive views coming from the same source. So keep reading and commenting, but be discerning when reading anonymous comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I’ve learned from the campaign for and against Measure I and the election campaigns of Kevin Northcraft and Sherrie Bell, is that HCCA is effective at having a few people monitor social media and change the narrative of the article by posting negative comments and misinformation about the subject of the article and make it seem as though many people share that view. On Facebook the number of “fake” profiles to discredit and misinform was plentiful.  These profiles were easy to detect because the profiles had no “friends”, no photos, and often the profile picture was traceable using Google images.  It created the illusion that many in the community shared the same feeling, when in reality it was just a few people, including paid professionals.  Now that the hospital district has cut ties with HCCA one might assume that they no longer have any reason to cast doubt on the new board and direction of the district. However, the continuing legal filings, the leverage they may want to gain in negotiations, and for pure spite, I believe they are continuing this practice using the ability to comment anonymously on the Valley Voice website. I appreciate that the Voice allows for comment after its articles, but I do caution readers that the use of anonymous comments may be used to sway the reader’s perception.  I also think that if the Voice uses anonymous comments in their news articles, they have a responsibility to the reader to ascertain that these are not repetitive views coming from the same source. So keep reading and commenting, but be discerning when reading anonymous comments.</p>
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		<title>By: CHJ</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12499</link>
		<dc:creator>CHJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12492&quot;&gt;JustOwnIt&lt;/a&gt;.

“You guys own it”.....obviously novested interest in this community or its people.....go stir the pot somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12492">JustOwnIt</a>.</p>
<p>“You guys own it”&#8230;..obviously novested interest in this community or its people&#8230;..go stir the pot somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: CHJ</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12498</link>
		<dc:creator>CHJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12485&quot;&gt;Mickey&lt;/a&gt;.

Had jobs for which they were not paid..... actually I wouldn’t call that a job, I would call that volunteer work......all while Benny got fat and richer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12485">Mickey</a>.</p>
<p>Had jobs for which they were not paid&#8230;.. actually I wouldn’t call that a job, I would call that volunteer work&#8230;&#8230;all while Benny got fat and richer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: CHJ</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12497</link>
		<dc:creator>CHJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 01:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12491&quot;&gt;JustOwnIt&lt;/a&gt;.

Forget who was on the board?!? Their failure to read the contract  as they were entrusted to is why we are where we’re at to begin with. It is totally and completely their fault, their negligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12491">JustOwnIt</a>.</p>
<p>Forget who was on the board?!? Their failure to read the contract  as they were entrusted to is why we are where we’re at to begin with. It is totally and completely their fault, their negligence.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaMaloy</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12495</link>
		<dc:creator>LindaMaloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorant people is what got us here in the first place. I am sick to death of you nay sayers that have not hauled your dumb butts to the board meetings to hear what is really going on! Every step this board takes is still being blocked by Benny boy and his high priced lawyers. Can you not get that through. your thick skulls? Compound that with the number of government hoops they have to jump thru, the absolute utter mess the hospital records were in, the massive amount of shredding Benny&#039;s group did, trying to find where the money all disappeared to, dealing with disgruntled employees, dealing with unpaid vendors......this will not happen overnight. Just when they think the can see the light at the end of the tunnel this ass pulls something else!
Be part of the solution or shut the hell up! People like you are the reason almost every facet in Tulare is under siege.  Idiot Mayor, problems at cemetary, police dept woes, the list goes on and in.
Help or be quiet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorant people is what got us here in the first place. I am sick to death of you nay sayers that have not hauled your dumb butts to the board meetings to hear what is really going on! Every step this board takes is still being blocked by Benny boy and his high priced lawyers. Can you not get that through. your thick skulls? Compound that with the number of government hoops they have to jump thru, the absolute utter mess the hospital records were in, the massive amount of shredding Benny&#8217;s group did, trying to find where the money all disappeared to, dealing with disgruntled employees, dealing with unpaid vendors&#8230;&#8230;this will not happen overnight. Just when they think the can see the light at the end of the tunnel this ass pulls something else!<br />
Be part of the solution or shut the hell up! People like you are the reason almost every facet in Tulare is under siege.  Idiot Mayor, problems at cemetary, police dept woes, the list goes on and in.<br />
Help or be quiet!</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12494</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12493&quot;&gt;Lloyd&lt;/a&gt;.

You just justified selling your soul to the devil....impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12493">Lloyd</a>.</p>
<p>You just justified selling your soul to the devil&#8230;.impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018/01/25/tulare-hospital-seeks-invalidate-evolutions-deed/#comment-12493</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard the board and other people saying the goal was to get rid of Ben and the old board....Now the same people can’t even face the public cause the new board failed miserable! 
What a joke, we have NO hospital! Let’s not forget one thing “ we had an hospital “ and “we had jobs”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard the board and other people saying the goal was to get rid of Ben and the old board&#8230;.Now the same people can’t even face the public cause the new board failed miserable!<br />
What a joke, we have NO hospital! Let’s not forget one thing “ we had an hospital “ and “we had jobs”</p>
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