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		<title>By: Sum yung guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sum yung guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2017 02:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it makes sene of why they didn’t even acknowledge my application 12 months ago. 8 years of Navy honor, courage and commitment could have been an issue maybe lol Thanks for the favor TPD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it makes sene of why they didn’t even acknowledge my application 12 months ago. 8 years of Navy honor, courage and commitment could have been an issue maybe lol Thanks for the favor TPD</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, The Mayor has had credit card issues in the past with the city credit card, Then he is paying for a dinner with the union president a retired police officer and his family on the city card. Asked to be reimbursed by city. After VV Story has wife go pay the bill at the city? If that alone doesn&#039;t scream fraud. Was the Chief investigating the Union or the Fraud? There has to be a lot more to this story. If Hensley gave up his rights to privacy. Wants everything open
to the public, maybe thats why the city hasn&#039;t started an investigation on Hensley.  The excuse of saving money is BS on hiring the Investigator.  I agree with Barbara, this is entertaining. With AO and Kelly crying not fair, poor me, it&#039;s laughable. If AO and Kelly are such Great Police Officers then they would have no problem getting a job in Visalia or the TCSO or any other PD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, The Mayor has had credit card issues in the past with the city credit card, Then he is paying for a dinner with the union president a retired police officer and his family on the city card. Asked to be reimbursed by city. After VV Story has wife go pay the bill at the city? If that alone doesn&#8217;t scream fraud. Was the Chief investigating the Union or the Fraud? There has to be a lot more to this story. If Hensley gave up his rights to privacy. Wants everything open<br />
to the public, maybe thats why the city hasn&#8217;t started an investigation on Hensley.  The excuse of saving money is BS on hiring the Investigator.  I agree with Barbara, this is entertaining. With AO and Kelly crying not fair, poor me, it&#8217;s laughable. If AO and Kelly are such Great Police Officers then they would have no problem getting a job in Visalia or the TCSO or any other PD.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2017/12/06/tulare-police-chief-still-job-despite-union-misgivings/#comment-12179</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, BRAVO, this says it all!!! I am so impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, BRAVO, this says it all!!! I am so impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2017/12/06/tulare-police-chief-still-job-despite-union-misgivings/#comment-12177</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an entertainingly good read!</description>
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		<title>By: Tulare PD Chief&#039;s Attorney Demands Action. Tulare Waits. - Valley Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulare PD Chief&#039;s Attorney Demands Action. Tulare Waits. - Valley Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 10:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[&#8230;] to a previous Voice article, “Tulare Police Chief Still Has Job, Despite Union Misgivings” written by Dave Adalian, have been [&#8230;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to a previous Voice article, “Tulare Police Chief Still Has Job, Despite Union Misgivings” written by Dave Adalian, have been [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Filo Betto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filo Betto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, based on current events.....The Chief of Police is put on Admin leave? Then shortly after two additional command staff officers, a Captain and a Lieutenant? 

Fast forward a few weeks and now the POA is all for the investigation and the demise of the Chief and for the most part it would be assumed the other command staffers? 

You have “Anonymous Officer” “Woke” and “Wokest” all but crying mutiny, based on the “Gestapo” style command tactics. I believe I read officers have been threatened with their careers sexually harassed, assaulted, cursed at, pressured, stressed, and asked to step down from POA positions (if they know what’s good for them). 

Also I read where The Chief is accused of dropping the ball on an internal affairs investigation? I think the year long criminal investigation trumps the I.A.. Also I believe there is case law on this. 

One of you even took the time to bash your own civilian support staff..... dispatchers and office/clerical staff. Simply for supporting their Chief and not having the same mindset or opinion as you.........that speaks volumes of the situation. 

This all comes after a steak, shrimp and a Shirley Temple? Between the Mayor, his family and the POA President and a retired officer........Wow.

So I/We, the citizens of the Peoples Republic of Tulare are supposed to stomach all this? 

To the officers in peril and being mistreated by the command staff for so long..........Why? Based on the posts these incidents didn’t start the night of the (Now) infamous Cattlemans Dinner? This has been on going.......I would even venture to say that some of those on the command staff, were not on the command staff?

You have a POA..... you obviously have representation of an Attorney...... why not take all of these allegations to a higher power? District Attorney, Calif. Department of Justice, State Attorney General, Labor board, heck maybe the ghost busters?
In today’s magical world allegations like this pay out handsomely..........and you keep your job or go to another agency on your own accord. 

Something is a little funky and everyone is starting to see it unfold. If more officers are against the command staff, than are for the command staff and you have waited for this particular time to stand on your soapboxes, expose the dirty laundry, grand stand and throw mud........you brothers and sisters got problems, big problems. 

Your relying on the good Mayor Jones, City Manager Carlini and City Attorney Phillips to properly run an investigation you (or some of you) agree with? Or is this simply a cheap means to an end of the “Gestapo” . You think they start dumping command staffers, all of a sudden you’ll be in the good graces of those three? The City’s purse strings will open up, the homeless, the gangs, and dope will disappear? 

How about this, everything you have accused or claimed the Chief/Command has done to you...... The good Mayor and City Manager have also been accused of. I mean the things that people have accused the good Mayor of are pretty serious right? Things you’d draw a case number for and get some statements. Shoot some of his antics are public record. The City Manager has a great article from a Palm Beach FL. newspaper on his firing. The Attorney...... meh..... all I can see is, she did represent the good Mayor in a criminal case and she is the Fresno Firefighters Union’s Attorney, which I believe the good Mayor is the President of? Not sure, but no doubt he pays union dues. 

Not to mention where this all seemed to start....... the unauthorized use of a City credit card to pay for a dinner with the POA President. 

This is your dream team, the team your vouching for to take down this great tyrant who has caused hate and discontent among the troops.

What is the end game? A new Chief? An entirely new command staff? Who will it be? An outsider? A big city Captain from out of the area or somebody within the ranks? The POA President maybe? He seems to have a solid relationship with the good Mayor. Shirley Temple’s for everyone!! 

I just hope some of you haven’t made yourself pawns in a game you can’t win. Look at what’s happening to your department, you are allowing the Mayor to pull your strings, it’s obvious he is the City Manager’s puppet master. 

Worst case scenario, you’ll have to pull security for the good Mayor’s next party at the outlet mall. Or maybe do patrol checks on the marijuana dispensaries or guard money runs. 

Remember brothers and sisters the reason why you got into this profession. This honorable profession. 

PS - Woke’s posts appear suspiciously familiar. The structure, language, grammar and how they read.... very knowledgeable of a situation nobody seems to know anything about.......It’s like I’ve seen them before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, based on current events&#8230;..The Chief of Police is put on Admin leave? Then shortly after two additional command staff officers, a Captain and a Lieutenant? </p>
<p>Fast forward a few weeks and now the POA is all for the investigation and the demise of the Chief and for the most part it would be assumed the other command staffers? </p>
<p>You have “Anonymous Officer” “Woke” and “Wokest” all but crying mutiny, based on the “Gestapo” style command tactics. I believe I read officers have been threatened with their careers sexually harassed, assaulted, cursed at, pressured, stressed, and asked to step down from POA positions (if they know what’s good for them). </p>
<p>Also I read where The Chief is accused of dropping the ball on an internal affairs investigation? I think the year long criminal investigation trumps the I.A.. Also I believe there is case law on this. </p>
<p>One of you even took the time to bash your own civilian support staff&#8230;.. dispatchers and office/clerical staff. Simply for supporting their Chief and not having the same mindset or opinion as you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;that speaks volumes of the situation. </p>
<p>This all comes after a steak, shrimp and a Shirley Temple? Between the Mayor, his family and the POA President and a retired officer&#8230;&#8230;..Wow.</p>
<p>So I/We, the citizens of the Peoples Republic of Tulare are supposed to stomach all this? </p>
<p>To the officers in peril and being mistreated by the command staff for so long&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Why? Based on the posts these incidents didn’t start the night of the (Now) infamous Cattlemans Dinner? This has been on going&#8230;&#8230;.I would even venture to say that some of those on the command staff, were not on the command staff?</p>
<p>You have a POA&#8230;.. you obviously have representation of an Attorney&#8230;&#8230; why not take all of these allegations to a higher power? District Attorney, Calif. Department of Justice, State Attorney General, Labor board, heck maybe the ghost busters?<br />
In today’s magical world allegations like this pay out handsomely&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and you keep your job or go to another agency on your own accord. </p>
<p>Something is a little funky and everyone is starting to see it unfold. If more officers are against the command staff, than are for the command staff and you have waited for this particular time to stand on your soapboxes, expose the dirty laundry, grand stand and throw mud&#8230;&#8230;..you brothers and sisters got problems, big problems. </p>
<p>Your relying on the good Mayor Jones, City Manager Carlini and City Attorney Phillips to properly run an investigation you (or some of you) agree with? Or is this simply a cheap means to an end of the “Gestapo” . You think they start dumping command staffers, all of a sudden you’ll be in the good graces of those three? The City’s purse strings will open up, the homeless, the gangs, and dope will disappear? </p>
<p>How about this, everything you have accused or claimed the Chief/Command has done to you&#8230;&#8230; The good Mayor and City Manager have also been accused of. I mean the things that people have accused the good Mayor of are pretty serious right? Things you’d draw a case number for and get some statements. Shoot some of his antics are public record. The City Manager has a great article from a Palm Beach FL. newspaper on his firing. The Attorney&#8230;&#8230; meh&#8230;.. all I can see is, she did represent the good Mayor in a criminal case and she is the Fresno Firefighters Union’s Attorney, which I believe the good Mayor is the President of? Not sure, but no doubt he pays union dues. </p>
<p>Not to mention where this all seemed to start&#8230;&#8230;. the unauthorized use of a City credit card to pay for a dinner with the POA President. </p>
<p>This is your dream team, the team your vouching for to take down this great tyrant who has caused hate and discontent among the troops.</p>
<p>What is the end game? A new Chief? An entirely new command staff? Who will it be? An outsider? A big city Captain from out of the area or somebody within the ranks? The POA President maybe? He seems to have a solid relationship with the good Mayor. Shirley Temple’s for everyone!! </p>
<p>I just hope some of you haven’t made yourself pawns in a game you can’t win. Look at what’s happening to your department, you are allowing the Mayor to pull your strings, it’s obvious he is the City Manager’s puppet master. </p>
<p>Worst case scenario, you’ll have to pull security for the good Mayor’s next party at the outlet mall. Or maybe do patrol checks on the marijuana dispensaries or guard money runs. </p>
<p>Remember brothers and sisters the reason why you got into this profession. This honorable profession. </p>
<p>PS &#8211; Woke’s posts appear suspiciously familiar. The structure, language, grammar and how they read&#8230;. very knowledgeable of a situation nobody seems to know anything about&#8230;&#8230;.It’s like I’ve seen them before.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2017/12/06/tulare-police-chief-still-job-despite-union-misgivings/#comment-12172</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 04:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read something very interesting on the Tulare City Council Perspective facebook page! Now I understand why certain police officers are so vocal on the comments, sounds like a very ugly political move by a corrupt politician. Two police officers meet up with the mayor as he uses our taxpayer  money to pay for a 122 dollar meal then gets caught fraudulently using city credit card, City manager asks for inverstigation, Chief investigates, I am guessing the mayor does not like that and threatens City manager, City manager put Chief on paid administrative leave ( again, tax payer money), City Attorney is a buddy of the mayor, this is some crooked stuff. This sounds like something out of a mystery novel and it keeps getting better and better. I am sick of corrupt politicians and our tax payer money getting used for corrupt officials!!! Not to mention a Chief who has had to sit back and watch from the sidelines as his reputation is destroyed, makes me ill. NOT TO MENTION the police officers that are a part of this! I guarantee the meeting was a plot on the chief. According to the article the mayors wife and daughter were at cattlemans and a Shirley temple was ordered. I do not think two police officers were drinking Shirley temples. I am thinking someones daughter ordered that on the city credit card. Then the mayor pays the bill after he finds out he is busted! Enough is enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read something very interesting on the Tulare City Council Perspective facebook page! Now I understand why certain police officers are so vocal on the comments, sounds like a very ugly political move by a corrupt politician. Two police officers meet up with the mayor as he uses our taxpayer  money to pay for a 122 dollar meal then gets caught fraudulently using city credit card, City manager asks for inverstigation, Chief investigates, I am guessing the mayor does not like that and threatens City manager, City manager put Chief on paid administrative leave ( again, tax payer money), City Attorney is a buddy of the mayor, this is some crooked stuff. This sounds like something out of a mystery novel and it keeps getting better and better. I am sick of corrupt politicians and our tax payer money getting used for corrupt officials!!! Not to mention a Chief who has had to sit back and watch from the sidelines as his reputation is destroyed, makes me ill. NOT TO MENTION the police officers that are a part of this! I guarantee the meeting was a plot on the chief. According to the article the mayors wife and daughter were at cattlemans and a Shirley temple was ordered. I do not think two police officers were drinking Shirley temples. I am thinking someones daughter ordered that on the city credit card. Then the mayor pays the bill after he finds out he is busted! Enough is enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Vigran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Vigran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2017 20:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are comments here from a lot of different individuals - anyone who would like to discuss these matters further and is willing to go on the record - please email or call me nancy@ourvalleyvoice.com, 559-623-5398.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are comments here from a lot of different individuals &#8211; anyone who would like to discuss these matters further and is willing to go on the record &#8211; please email or call me <a href="mailto:nancy@ourvalleyvoice.com">nancy@ourvalleyvoice.com</a>, 559-623-5398.</p>
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		<title>By: Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smarterthanaveragebearbooboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The investigation has to be conducted first, to present findings, unfortunately it hasn&#039;t even started, why? Because nothing to investigate.  The city attorney needs to go also, concidering she represented Mayor Jones in his domestic case, she is also legal counsel for Frenso Fire Fighters Association in which Mr Jones is President, ummmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The investigation has to be conducted first, to present findings, unfortunately it hasn&#8217;t even started, why? Because nothing to investigate.  The city attorney needs to go also, concidering she represented Mayor Jones in his domestic case, she is also legal counsel for Frenso Fire Fighters Association in which Mr Jones is President, ummmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Woke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2017/12/06/tulare-police-chief-still-job-despite-union-misgivings/#comment-12143&quot;&gt;Concerned Citizen&lt;/a&gt;.

City attorney is a female. If your going to cast aspersions at someone at least get their gender pronoun right!!! God help me! You can&#039;t even get the smallest of facts right!!! And you know what...that is what is so frustrating about this whole escapade. People with no idea what is going on insist that they know everything and have all the information, but when someone comes along and presents real facts they are called liars! After calling these people liars you then espouse some other conspiracy theory that pulls attention away from the issues that really need to be addressed! You and your ilk are standing in the way of real progress being made as far as educating the public is concerned! 

If you don&#039;t even know the gender of the City attorney, who is obviously part of some grand conspiracy you concocted, then why are you on here waxing philosophical about anything? You obviously aren&#039;t familiar with any of the facts, the procedures, or any of the players! 

To borrow a quote from the great Walter Sobchak, &quot;you have no frame of reference here, Citizen. You&#039;re like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know,,,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2017/12/06/tulare-police-chief-still-job-despite-union-misgivings/#comment-12143">Concerned Citizen</a>.</p>
<p>City attorney is a female. If your going to cast aspersions at someone at least get their gender pronoun right!!! God help me! You can&#8217;t even get the smallest of facts right!!! And you know what&#8230;that is what is so frustrating about this whole escapade. People with no idea what is going on insist that they know everything and have all the information, but when someone comes along and presents real facts they are called liars! After calling these people liars you then espouse some other conspiracy theory that pulls attention away from the issues that really need to be addressed! You and your ilk are standing in the way of real progress being made as far as educating the public is concerned! </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t even know the gender of the City attorney, who is obviously part of some grand conspiracy you concocted, then why are you on here waxing philosophical about anything? You obviously aren&#8217;t familiar with any of the facts, the procedures, or any of the players! </p>
<p>To borrow a quote from the great Walter Sobchak, &#8220;you have no frame of reference here, Citizen. You&#8217;re like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know,,,&#8221;</p>
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