Comments on: Delenda Est Carlton

By: Dave Adalian

Dave Adalian — Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:13:29 +0000

If you knew the rules of rhetoric, you’d know the ad hominem attack is a fallacy. That’s the best you’ve got: “I don’t like your tone! And I don’t like smart people!”

If you knew your Latin, you’d know the Vulgate translation is “delendam esse Carthaginem,” and that the popular quote is an established proverbial expression.

Apparently, facts don’t interest you. You’re just here to crap on the people with guts enough to speak up.

You’re clearly only “barba tenus sapientes,” and what we’ve got here is a case of “corvus oculum corvi non eruit.”

The real question here is: Qui bono?

By: Barbara

Barbara — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:30:38 +0000

In reply to Tulareforlife.

People who disagree with you are “bullies”, trash talkers, uncivil. Your words sound more self-descriptive of yourself and you hide behind your made up name of “Tulareforlife” out of fear. How very sad. We are simply your fellow citizens who also pay our fair share of taxes in Tulare and have a right to post our opinions….. no need to fear us.

By: Not Tulare Proud

Not Tulare Proud — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 02:10:36 +0000

There is a reason I didn’t use my name, it’s for the very real fear of retaliation. I’ve spent 50 years in Tulare. Born and raised. My family is both political AND well known. We have been in the community over 150 years. Does that mean we know everyone, yes. Does that mean we have been singled out YES.
We personally know those that have lost lives at TRMC. We also know those that won huge law suits of undisclosed amounts that they are NOT supposed to talk about, due to doctors errors. We will no longer be a party to this.
Wrong is wrong, there is no bullying involved.

By: TRMC employee

TRMC employee — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:37:20 +0000

In reply to Tulareforlife.

For the patients at TRMC, and their relatives and the hospital employees, this is a very very big deal. Do you understand that people have died because of incorrect and inadequate staffing of the operating rooms?
We are not bullying anybody, but we do demand that our democratically elected hospital board have a convenient public place to hold their meetings? Is that too much to ask?
It is difficult to have those meetings at TRMC because Benny the thief Benzeevi will not even allow the meeting agenda to be posted in the usual place near the elevators. In fact, TRMC website, is still showing Kumar as a board member, lol, more than a month after he has been recalled.
We just want a decent well managed public hospital.

By: Joseph Oldenbourg

Joseph Oldenbourg — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:43:32 +0000

I placed Carlton last for emphasis in the reader’s mind.

By: Tulareforlife

Tulareforlife — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:43:51 +0000

If you really did know your history, you would know the proper meaning and appropriate way of using the Latin term and would put the name Carlton before delenda est. So much for you trying to sound educated. LOL

By: Tulareforlife

Tulareforlife — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:37:38 +0000

You guys are all bullies. Anytime someone disagrees with your point of view, you guys trash talk them and demand they be recalled. I disagree with all of you, so I’m sure your comments will be nothing nice. You people do not know how to have a civil debate. I don’t agree with everything Mayor Jones does or stands for, but I don’t attack him. I chose not to use my real name in fear you bullies will attack me. Very sad!

By: Not Tulare Proud

Not Tulare Proud — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:00:31 +0000

As one who recently witnessed some comments on fb by our esteemed mayor…. there is just no excuse for name calling and unprofessionalism when you are in such a position of power. We all agree transparency and accountability is what we are asking from the hospital? I think it’s only fair to expect ALL leaders from our community to show their fiduciary powers resposibly and do the same. It’s unacceptable to just stop attending board meetings because the board isn’t going your way. Mr Torres & Me. Wilbur, you should be ashamed.Mr Jones has no comment on the situation with the hospital other than to attempt to halt the board meetings at the library? Sad, just sad.

By: Mickey

Mickey — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 03:28:44 +0000

Pretty much if you dont agree with this group you are “wrong ” and this is the kind of people we want to run the hospital? I dont think so!!! They want to intimidate people, they have lied and let me tell you ” bullying is not ok ” They have not been the businesses model and have failed terribly.

By: M Tucker

M Tucker — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:41:23 +0000

In reply to Tulare True.

My recollection is that there have been some pretty “hot tempers” at City Council meetings; I attended a few myself. Never has there been a need for “extra security” except in the 1980’s when a meeting was held at the Senior Center.

Tulare Police Dept has officers on duty 24/7 to provide “security” for Council meetings IF needed. All it takes is a call to 911 if criminal activity occurs….

This attempt to prevent the hospital board from using the Council Chambers goes against everything I DONATED for when I made a donation to the building fund. This was promoted as a “community facility”.

This is an attempt to be jerks and be uncooperative. This hospital is a critical piece of a community’s infrastructure, and to be so uncooperative makes the City Council look petty.