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		<title>By: Matt Nemmers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Nemmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO!  Only in California do overwrought, pseudo-environmentalist plastic shaman like Amy Dickinson-Campbell have the temerity to blame a harmless (and all-but obscure) sport like disc golf for the &quot;destruction&quot; of the trees in a park.  What useless tripe.

Amy should try writing about REAL problems....like WHY so many people DON&#039;T think Bruce Jenner&#039;s a &quot;hero&quot; for buying some boobs and changing his name.  You know....important stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO!  Only in California do overwrought, pseudo-environmentalist plastic shaman like Amy Dickinson-Campbell have the temerity to blame a harmless (and all-but obscure) sport like disc golf for the &#8220;destruction&#8221; of the trees in a park.  What useless tripe.</p>
<p>Amy should try writing about REAL problems&#8230;.like WHY so many people DON&#8217;T think Bruce Jenner&#8217;s a &#8220;hero&#8221; for buying some boobs and changing his name.  You know&#8230;.important stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1551&quot;&gt;Mary&lt;/a&gt;.

Mary, I guess we should get rid of woodpeckers then too because they put holes in trees, or lawnmowers because they hurt the grass by cutting it, or maybe we should get rid of winter because it makes the pretty trees lose their leaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1551">Mary</a>.</p>
<p>Mary, I guess we should get rid of woodpeckers then too because they put holes in trees, or lawnmowers because they hurt the grass by cutting it, or maybe we should get rid of winter because it makes the pretty trees lose their leaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy's Ex Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy's Ex Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m Amy&#039;s ex-boyfriend, and I have to state a few things:

1. We broke up well over a year ago
2. She hated that disc golf meant more to me than she did
3. Since that time she has non-stopped harassed me on MySpace (which I can&#039;t figure out why since like no one uses that site anymore)
4. She has vowed to destroy the reputation of us disc golfers, even going so far as lying about me to my shift manager at Little Caesers.
5. I still love her, but her ten cats are a pain in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m Amy&#8217;s ex-boyfriend, and I have to state a few things:</p>
<p>1. We broke up well over a year ago<br />
2. She hated that disc golf meant more to me than she did<br />
3. Since that time she has non-stopped harassed me on MySpace (which I can&#8217;t figure out why since like no one uses that site anymore)<br />
4. She has vowed to destroy the reputation of us disc golfers, even going so far as lying about me to my shift manager at Little Caesers.<br />
5. I still love her, but her ten cats are a pain in the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman is making false accusations to support her own agenda. Her Mooney Project site, which appears to be written about as well as this article, exposes her true motives. Her group is trying to take possession of the park away from it&#039;s current trust citing violation of the Mooney heirs reversion clause. Despicable this type of propaganda would be posted as anything other than an OP ED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman is making false accusations to support her own agenda. Her Mooney Project site, which appears to be written about as well as this article, exposes her true motives. Her group is trying to take possession of the park away from it&#8217;s current trust citing violation of the Mooney heirs reversion clause. Despicable this type of propaganda would be posted as anything other than an OP ED.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach the Biologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach the Biologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who loves the hobby of disc golf, and who professionally educates the public on threats to the natural world, let me see if I can help. 

If you believe that disc golf is in the same league, sport, sentence, or universe as many other things humans do, that negatively affect nature, you need a very serious education. That isn&#039;t an attack, just a fact. The trees you showed pictures of, those are not disc impacts,  discs cannot transfer as much force as is needed to cause those dents, not even with years of hits. Disc golfers love the nature aspect of playing. At my local course we work with the parks to establish the areas that need to be protected to keep the wildlife habitat stable. Stable enough to support all the native species, including the hawks and owls. (Raptors are usually the first species to leave an unhealthy environment) Not once have we had problems with the disc community not supporting these initiatives. We love the natural look of our parks. So why then did you attack us over ball golf? Living in California, I would have assumed you were aware of the water shortage? Have you compared the water used for ball golf courses and disc golf courses. I&#039;ll give you a hint, water usage for disc golf = amount of water players drink. That&#039;s just about it. 

You want to see a real change in your community? Do you want to write a real article worthy of recognition? How about an article on how far solar power has come on the last decade, what it&#039;s practical applications are now and in the future, and finish with an inspiring voice centered around how California could be a leader in clean energy with its use. We&#039;ll even help you edit it. Clean energy would help the world around you, including the oak trees. Oak trees much prefer rainfall over the concern of a small piece of plastic weighed in grams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who loves the hobby of disc golf, and who professionally educates the public on threats to the natural world, let me see if I can help. </p>
<p>If you believe that disc golf is in the same league, sport, sentence, or universe as many other things humans do, that negatively affect nature, you need a very serious education. That isn&#8217;t an attack, just a fact. The trees you showed pictures of, those are not disc impacts,  discs cannot transfer as much force as is needed to cause those dents, not even with years of hits. Disc golfers love the nature aspect of playing. At my local course we work with the parks to establish the areas that need to be protected to keep the wildlife habitat stable. Stable enough to support all the native species, including the hawks and owls. (Raptors are usually the first species to leave an unhealthy environment) Not once have we had problems with the disc community not supporting these initiatives. We love the natural look of our parks. So why then did you attack us over ball golf? Living in California, I would have assumed you were aware of the water shortage? Have you compared the water used for ball golf courses and disc golf courses. I&#8217;ll give you a hint, water usage for disc golf = amount of water players drink. That&#8217;s just about it. </p>
<p>You want to see a real change in your community? Do you want to write a real article worthy of recognition? How about an article on how far solar power has come on the last decade, what it&#8217;s practical applications are now and in the future, and finish with an inspiring voice centered around how California could be a leader in clean energy with its use. We&#8217;ll even help you edit it. Clean energy would help the world around you, including the oak trees. Oak trees much prefer rainfall over the concern of a small piece of plastic weighed in grams.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil Thobani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil Thobani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amy,

I would like to say that I regularly play a course that is over 25 years old and the trees are thriving. In fact all of the vegetation is thriving. You clearly have some sort of bias against disc golf and your so called &quot;findings&quot; are garbage. This is a poorly written opinion piece and you should be ashamed of your work.  

Disc golf is a fantastic way for people of all ages to get outside and exercise. It is also inexpensive when compared to ball golf allowing more people the opportunity to play. Removing the Mooney Grove Park disc golf course would be a huge mistake for the Visalia community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amy,</p>
<p>I would like to say that I regularly play a course that is over 25 years old and the trees are thriving. In fact all of the vegetation is thriving. You clearly have some sort of bias against disc golf and your so called &#8220;findings&#8221; are garbage. This is a poorly written opinion piece and you should be ashamed of your work.  </p>
<p>Disc golf is a fantastic way for people of all ages to get outside and exercise. It is also inexpensive when compared to ball golf allowing more people the opportunity to play. Removing the Mooney Grove Park disc golf course would be a huge mistake for the Visalia community.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexi</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the authors ex boyfriend i s a disc golfer and his favorite course is Mooney Grove Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the authors ex boyfriend i s a disc golfer and his favorite course is Mooney Grove Park.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Beich</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1781</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Beich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where is the article that  would show the counterpoint and truth  to this fictitious piece of slander and stupidity? it seems like no research was presented and since Amy is obviously opposed to disc golf and a representative of an opposing faction that does not understand how disc golfer can actually HELP maintain a course and preserve the environment when correctly engaged, and shows that by saying she has exposed emails by a parks person who actually plays disc golf, as though is somehow going to sway anyone when Amy has the reverse obvious bias? is this news?  no.  Does this community care about this park?   I&#039;m guessing yes.so work with your local disc golfers, not against them. Disc golfers can be a great help to a park, not a hindrance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where is the article that  would show the counterpoint and truth  to this fictitious piece of slander and stupidity? it seems like no research was presented and since Amy is obviously opposed to disc golf and a representative of an opposing faction that does not understand how disc golfer can actually HELP maintain a course and preserve the environment when correctly engaged, and shows that by saying she has exposed emails by a parks person who actually plays disc golf, as though is somehow going to sway anyone when Amy has the reverse obvious bias? is this news?  no.  Does this community care about this park?   I&#8217;m guessing yes.so work with your local disc golfers, not against them. Disc golfers can be a great help to a park, not a hindrance.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to note that in the University of Tennessee paper that Ms. Dickinson-Campbell rips from without the use of quotation marks five of the six sources cited are half-baked &quot;news&quot; and opinion pieces like her own. The fifth source (LeClerc, Che, Swaddle, &#038; Cristol, 2005) deals with ball golf environmental impact. These sources are more befitting of a high school MLA paper entitled &quot;Why I Think Disc Golf Is Very Bad&quot; as opposed to an academic peer-reviewed journal article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to note that in the University of Tennessee paper that Ms. Dickinson-Campbell rips from without the use of quotation marks five of the six sources cited are half-baked &#8220;news&#8221; and opinion pieces like her own. The fifth source (LeClerc, Che, Swaddle, &amp; Cristol, 2005) deals with ball golf environmental impact. These sources are more befitting of a high school MLA paper entitled &#8220;Why I Think Disc Golf Is Very Bad&#8221; as opposed to an academic peer-reviewed journal article.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth H.</title>
		<link>https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2015/07/02/disc-golf-not-your-fathers-frisbee-game/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read this article and recomposed this comment twice now. It is apparent that Ms. Dickinson-Campbell has no real world experience with the subject matter in her article. The photographic evidence shown is likely from mowing equipment (bottom of tree). It&#039;s sad to see that articles like this are the new normal for journalism. No longer do authors do actual research on the subjects about which they wright, instead they peruse the depths of the internet for information that supports their claim while ignoring that which doesn&#039;t. Having personally discussed the concern of erosion control for my local disc golf courses with actual parks department staff I can assure the author (and anyone else reading this) that no tree (save newly planted saplings) in any of these cities has ever been destroyed, let alone damaged more than superficially, by a disc golf disc. If the author is so worried about soil compaction I would recommend laying down wood chips around the tee boxes and baskets. This has done wonders for compaction issues at my home course. 

As for as the how the article was written and directed - ignorance is not and excuse for poor authorship and may the journalistic gods have mercy on your soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read this article and recomposed this comment twice now. It is apparent that Ms. Dickinson-Campbell has no real world experience with the subject matter in her article. The photographic evidence shown is likely from mowing equipment (bottom of tree). It&#8217;s sad to see that articles like this are the new normal for journalism. No longer do authors do actual research on the subjects about which they wright, instead they peruse the depths of the internet for information that supports their claim while ignoring that which doesn&#8217;t. Having personally discussed the concern of erosion control for my local disc golf courses with actual parks department staff I can assure the author (and anyone else reading this) that no tree (save newly planted saplings) in any of these cities has ever been destroyed, let alone damaged more than superficially, by a disc golf disc. If the author is so worried about soil compaction I would recommend laying down wood chips around the tee boxes and baskets. This has done wonders for compaction issues at my home course. </p>
<p>As for as the how the article was written and directed &#8211; ignorance is not and excuse for poor authorship and may the journalistic gods have mercy on your soul.</p>
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