Comments on: Political Fix (3 July, 2014) https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/ In-depth, locally-produced coverage of the Central Valley. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:43:55 -0700 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: alex station https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-612 alex station Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:56:12 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-612 yes i.m fully aware to the new DA offices i was pushing for that some time ago to the city and made that suggestions to some city folks and to mr einns , tho the other ben einns that has the other office across town should not be for the public defender , it would serve the public better to have everything in one area close to the court house and to turn some of the unused building on main into mobile offices now I'm aware of the sham of a deal the business's that our left on main are dealing with i used to talk with old Dick Eckhoff all the time and horowitz yes the 35,000 the chamber gets is a joke, now that ms carter is gone it will be harder to cook the books and about the appointment per the charter that's like beating an old horse thats your opinion and your sicking to it i was hoping to see some movement on main st since the court house open, but some of the building are just not ready, since government and crime is the biggest profit makers for tulare co , i thought i would have seen a flood of permits, for business's like a kinkos, law offices,more restaurants, and paralegal and immigration consultant office , bail bonds places to fill up main and maybe even a real cocktail lounge I'm mean if they can loan for kohl's and these other retail places why not to private sectors or other type of companies such as wind and solar, and ag technologies, its always the some old story with that town and for coffee wow 2 cups in that valley heat i might have to take you up on that in January most of the meeting Ive have done in your town, you just have to bring doughnuts and you got em hooked till next time~A,S~ yes i.m fully aware to the new DA offices i was pushing for that some time ago to the city and made that suggestions to some city folks and to mr einns , tho the other ben einns that has the other office across town should not be for the public defender , it would serve the public better to have everything in one area close to the court house and to turn some of the unused building on main into mobile offices

now I’m aware of the sham of a deal the business’s that our left on main are dealing with i used to talk with old Dick Eckhoff all the time and horowitz

yes the 35,000 the chamber gets is a joke, now that ms carter is gone it will be harder to cook the books

and about the appointment per the charter that’s like beating an old horse thats your opinion and your sicking to it

i was hoping to see some movement on main st since the court house open, but some of the building are just not ready, since government and crime is the biggest profit makers for tulare co ,

i thought i would have seen a flood of permits, for business’s like a kinkos, law offices,more restaurants, and paralegal and immigration consultant office , bail bonds places to fill up main and maybe even a real cocktail lounge

I’m mean if they can loan for kohl’s and these other retail places why not to private sectors
or other type of companies such as wind and solar, and ag technologies, its always the some old story with that town
and for coffee wow 2 cups in that valley heat i might have to take you up on that in January

most of the meeting Ive have done in your town, you just have to bring doughnuts and you got em hooked till next time~A,S~

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-603 John Duran Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:32:42 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-603 Mr. Station: Thank you for your reply, it was well received and welcomed. From our conversation, I seem to think that we both agree on several topics and this is the way that most intelligent men can come to agreements and move forward to try and fix things, and for this I give you "props". But just to stand correct, this was my first time to run for the Porterville City Council, and I took interest only because of the many things that I see wrong within the city government. And as for Mr. Greens' position and from my point of view. I still feel that the next highest vote getter should have been appointed. Why?, because of the principles of a democratic form of government. I personally, to think that the vote of 4 council members should not have prevailed over the vote of hundreds of other citizens. If we wanted to take it a step further, we could say that the 4 council members gained an extra priveliege that you and I did not get, and that was to vote twice.In regards to the "undocumented" analogy, I still feel that mr. reyes did not earn the position, it was simply hand down to him, like an old pair of shoes would be handed down to a sibling or as a token recogniztion or moreover, the bottom of the barrel stock, (NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF). You mention three issues of concern: 1. water; as much money as the city allocates to the limited use of the golf course, maybe they should have invested in more reservoirs. The Chamber of Commerce audit reports for the last 4 years, indicate that the Chamber makes over $300,000.00 yearly. Maybe we should have used the yearly $35,000.00 the city contributes to the Chamber on other water projects. I personally asked 13 businesses within the Main Street area, if they were members of the Chambers', even I was surprised, when they said HECK NO!!!!! 2. Infrastructure. When you get some time please go and speak to Mr. Jeff Edwards (a long-time resident and business owner) and ask him if the $1,000.00 he and other business owners (seperately paid), had been paying for, for the last 10 years contributed in the maintance of the parking lot behind his their businesses. 3. Economic Development. I do not know if you are aware that the city intends to rebuilt the old Porterville Hotel site to house the District Attorney of Tulare County. Don't forget we still have 6 court rooms vacant at our new $93 Million courthouse. In order to aquire the hotel the city had to paid down the remainer of a state grant in the amount of $740,000.00, plus a development grant of $450,000.00 and a $150,000.00 note owed to Citicorp. If you get the chance, check out the repairs the city claims it has repaired regrading the drive thru allies along side of Main Street. Mr. Station, I personally, don't feel that an individual has to serve in any committee, volunteer, or be a business owner in order to be a servant to the people. A Servant simply has to follow the principles of our constitutions, which allows the people to have their freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It takes real men like you and I, to question the intents of local government and not just accept lip service. Sir: Can we have coffee, sometime? I guarantee you that at the end of our second cup, you'll regret you didn't vote for me. John Mr. Station: Thank you for your reply, it was well received and welcomed. From our conversation, I seem to think that we both agree on several topics and this is the way that most intelligent men can come to agreements and move forward to try and fix things, and for this I give you “props”. But just to stand correct, this was my first time to run for the Porterville City Council, and I took interest only because of the many things that I see wrong within the city government. And as for Mr. Greens’ position and from my point of view. I still feel that the next highest vote getter should have been appointed. Why?, because of the principles of a democratic form of government. I personally, to think that the vote of 4 council members should not have prevailed over the vote of hundreds of other citizens. If we wanted to take it a step further, we could say that the 4 council members gained an extra priveliege that you and I did not get, and that was to vote twice.In regards to the “undocumented” analogy, I still feel that mr. reyes did not earn the position, it was simply hand down to him, like an old pair of shoes would be handed down to a sibling or as a token recogniztion or moreover, the bottom of the barrel stock, (NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF). You mention three issues of concern: 1. water; as much money as the city allocates to the limited use of the golf course, maybe they should have invested in more reservoirs. The Chamber of Commerce audit reports for the last 4 years, indicate that the Chamber makes over $300,000.00 yearly. Maybe we should have used the yearly $35,000.00 the city contributes to the Chamber on other water projects. I personally asked 13 businesses within the Main Street area, if they were members of the Chambers’, even I was surprised, when they said HECK NO!!!!! 2. Infrastructure. When you get some time please go and speak to Mr. Jeff Edwards (a long-time resident and business owner) and ask him if the $1,000.00 he and other business owners (seperately paid), had been paying for, for the last 10 years contributed in the maintance of the parking lot behind his their businesses. 3. Economic Development. I do not know if you are aware that the city intends to rebuilt the old Porterville Hotel site to house the District Attorney of Tulare County. Don’t forget we still have 6 court rooms vacant at our new $93 Million courthouse. In order to aquire the hotel the city had to paid down the remainer of a state grant in the amount of $740,000.00, plus a development grant of $450,000.00 and a $150,000.00 note owed to Citicorp. If you get the chance, check out the repairs the city claims it has repaired regrading the drive thru allies along side of Main Street. Mr. Station, I personally, don’t feel that an individual has to serve in any committee, volunteer, or be a business owner in order to be a servant to the people. A Servant simply has to follow the principles of our constitutions, which allows the people to have their freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It takes real men like you and I, to question the intents of local government and not just accept lip service. Sir: Can we have coffee, sometime? I guarantee you that at the end of our second cup, you’ll regret you didn’t vote for me. John

]]> By: alex station https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-601 alex station Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:25:08 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-601 oh mr Duran thats really sad that you think pete did nothing for the city that is a very sad and untrue statement but that is your opinion and you are welcome to say what ever you want the guy is dead now, and for the "grow a pair" his turn is coming in 2016 and will not be returning the new future voters mostly young people will see to this for the so called paper site survey that's not an accurate survey any one from any where in the world not just residents can vote and as many times as they want lol yes i was being funny about the so called election process , i know how it works right? LOL the 3rd runner up gets the spot if someone dies and we don't have to follow the city charter you ran many times before yet never won why is that? and i love how people in porterville think they have to sit down with someone to get there point threw i could care less of all the so called what if's and what who did or may have done, what i care about now is the seated council now and what will they do for the people in the areas that are the most needed items 1 water 2 infrastructure 3 economic development yet if you ask them they can't give a logical answer the story in the paper the other day about water and from the city manager point of view said they don't want the city water cuz that means they will have to follow city rules, this is the first i have ever heard of this i know of many property's that are on city water yet do not count as in the city and for the " The Council was wanting an “expericence” applicant" i think that quote come from the good old paper and i wouldn't take anything they said with a grain of salt so if you and mr green want on council just keep on at it, but history has shown them and the voters they like to see some one that is engaged with the city and the people either by volunteer ,or committee or business owner ,and all types of people with in the city, need to be engage by there so called Representative not just there buddies and for the so called "undocumented" not going to go there your analogy is way off oh mr Duran thats really sad that you think pete did nothing for the city that is a very sad and untrue statement but that is your opinion and you are welcome to say what ever you want the guy is dead now,

and for the “grow a pair” his turn is coming in 2016 and will not be returning the new future voters mostly young people will see to this

for the so called paper site survey that’s not an accurate survey any one from any where in the world not just residents can vote and as many times as they want lol

yes i was being funny about the so called election process ,

i know how it works right? LOL the 3rd runner up gets the spot if someone dies and we don’t have to follow the city charter

you ran many times before yet never won why is that?

and i love how people in porterville think they have to sit down with someone to get there point threw i could care less of all the so called what if’s and what who did or may have done, what i care about now is the seated council now and what will they do for the people in the areas that are the most needed items

1 water
2 infrastructure
3 economic development

yet if you ask them they can’t give a logical answer

the story in the paper the other day about water and from the city manager point of view said they don’t want the city water cuz that means they will have to follow city rules,

this is the first i have ever heard of this i know of many property’s that are on city water yet do not count as in the city

and for the ” The Council was wanting an “expericence” applicant” i think that quote come from the good old paper and i wouldn’t take anything they said with a grain of salt

so if you and mr green want on council just keep on at it, but history has shown them and the voters they like to see some one that is engaged with the city and the people either by volunteer ,or committee or business owner ,and all types of people with in the city, need to be engage by there so called Representative not just there buddies

and for the so called “undocumented” not going to go there your analogy is way off

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-594 John Duran Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:28:00 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-594 Mr. Station, The candidates were just not walking around "kissing" babies and shaking hands as you put it, that is absurd. I can not beleive that an intelligent individual like yourself would actually think that is the way the election process works. Mr. Station, The candidates were just not walking around “kissing” babies and shaking hands as you put it, that is absurd. I can not beleive that an intelligent individual like yourself would actually think that is the way the election process works.

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-593 John Duran Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:19:24 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-593 Please excuse the typos, I apologize."do ha" was related to a click, but it was a continance. "one of the candidate, should read candidates. The word "survay", should read survey. "of the resident", should read of the residents. Please accept any futher, should read "do not expect any further communication. Arguement should read "argument". Again I respectfully apologize. Please excuse the typos, I apologize.”do ha” was related to a click, but it was a continance. “one of the candidate, should read candidates. The word “survay”, should read survey. “of the resident”, should read of the residents. Please accept any futher, should read “do not expect any further communication. Arguement should read “argument”. Again I respectfully apologize.

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-592 John Duran Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:01:12 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-592 do have association with the topic we are expressing. You initially said that Mr. Green should not be compare to the level of Mr. McCracken. and I "respecfully disagreed", Mr. McCracken served (supposely served) the city for several terms, and personally I did not see any accomplishments.The only thing I do know is that Mr. McCracken was in involved in offering one of the candidate in the 2012 Elections a position with the city, if he stayed out of the race, and I will take you before that individual if you are willing to hear the truth. In regards to the illegals, I said that "we, (as Americans) demand that the illegals take their place in line in order for them to get citizenship, contrary to how the city council, appointed the new city councilman. Let's not be stupid about this. The Council was wanting an "expericence" applicant, well look what we ending up with. If you check the servay that the Recorder is conducting, you can agree that the majority of the resident do/did not approve of the appointment. This is why I invite you and I to talk so that we can clarify the illusion of representation. If you choose not to contact me, please accept any further response. You did not engage in doing what I and the other 5 candidates did in asking people to support us in the election, and with this said, you have no standing in presenting arguement. In asking the voters to support us, was far more repectful then asking them to "GROW A PAIR", allow me to ask you, IS THIS THE KIND OF REPRESENTATION YOU WANT????????? do have association with the topic we are expressing. You initially said that Mr. Green should not be compare to the level of Mr. McCracken. and I “respecfully disagreed”, Mr. McCracken served (supposely served) the city for several terms, and personally I did not see any accomplishments.The only thing I do know is that Mr. McCracken was in involved in offering one of the candidate in the 2012 Elections a position with the city, if he stayed out of the race, and I will take you before that individual if you are willing to hear the truth. In regards to the illegals, I said that “we, (as Americans) demand that the illegals take their place in line in order for them to get citizenship, contrary to how the city council, appointed the new city councilman. Let’s not be stupid about this. The Council was wanting an “expericence” applicant, well look what we ending up with. If you check the servay that the Recorder is conducting, you can agree that the majority of the resident do/did not approve of the appointment. This is why I invite you and I to talk so that we can clarify the illusion of representation. If you choose not to contact me, please accept any further response. You did not engage in doing what I and the other 5 candidates did in asking people to support us in the election, and with this said, you have no standing in presenting arguement. In asking the voters to support us, was far more repectful then asking them to “GROW A PAIR”, allow me to ask you, IS THIS THE KIND OF REPRESENTATION YOU WANT?????????

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-591 John Duran Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:30:10 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-591 Mr. Station: Please do not loose you focus regarding this conversation. The issue concerning Mr. Green and the illegals (I sure have said, "undocumented" and I respectfully apoligize"), do ha Mr. Station: Please do not loose you focus regarding this conversation. The issue concerning Mr. Green and the illegals (I sure have said, “undocumented” and I respectfully apoligize”), do ha

]]> By: alex station https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-585 alex station Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:47:06 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-585 what does matt green and so called " illegal people" have to do with a little city council pick ? so all you have to do is kiss some babies , and walk around this city and shake some hands and that some how makes you more qualify, again doesn't work that way and keeping quiet about your local government doesn't do anything for transparency what does matt green and so called ” illegal people” have to do with a little city council pick ?

so all you have to do is kiss some babies , and walk around this city and shake some hands and that some how makes you more qualify, again doesn’t work that way

and keeping quiet about your local government doesn’t do anything for transparency

]]> By: John Duran https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-584 John Duran Wed, 23 Jul 2014 02:38:57 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-584 Mr. Station, and you are absolutely right, that the council does not hire people to work for the city, that is why I had questioned the allegations which were presented to me regarding this type of illegal activity of city employees and some of the City Council members.You need not worry about any rulings which have or have not been rendered in my favor. Whether you agree or disagree about me defending my civil rights, I will continue to do so. You should instead be more concerned about the functioning of your city government. Mr. Station, in reference to Mr. Green the third place candidate, think about what happen. We demand that any illegal people coming to our country take their place at the end of the line, in order to continue the process to citizenship. This demand is supported by every politician. Upon Mr. Green going through the process of getting vetted, knocking on doors for votes, walking the streets shaking voters hands to gain their vote, and taking the time to participate in several forums, the city council simply, slapped the voters in the face, by placing an individual at the very beginning of the line and granted him the privilege of representing the citizens who did not even vote for him. The appointed member to council did not have to comply with the demands that we make upon everyone else, not even when it comes to elections. If this is the case, why even register to vote, vote, or talk about voting. Just take applications and give it to your best friends, but be fair and tell the illegals that they no longer have to wait in line or go through the process in order to enjoy the last of our liberties and rights of our constitution. As a matter of fact in the 2016 Elections, let's just let the government know that we want to consider taking applicants only. As per the DA attending the recent council meetings, HE SHOULD , after all, he is the one who refused to excercise his authority to prosecute criminal activity, referred to him by the County Grand Jury. Regardless if crimes against the public are infractions, misdemeanors, or felonies, it is his duty to uphold the law. The invitation is still open to you. Mr. Station when I say things in public. it is because I have had the allegations confirmed. Do yourself a favor and don't dismiss the invitation. Please consider the old saying, "Sometimes it's better that you did not know". Mr. Station, and you are absolutely right, that the council does not hire people to work for the city, that is why I had questioned the allegations which were presented to me regarding this type of illegal activity of city employees and some of the City Council members.You need not worry about any rulings which have or have not been rendered in my favor. Whether you agree or disagree about me defending my civil rights, I will continue to do so. You should instead be more concerned about the functioning of your city government. Mr. Station, in reference to Mr. Green the third place candidate, think about what happen. We demand that any illegal people coming to our country take their place at the end of the line, in order to continue the process to citizenship. This demand is supported by every politician. Upon Mr. Green going through the process of getting vetted, knocking on doors for votes, walking the streets shaking voters hands to gain their vote, and taking the time to participate in several forums, the city council simply, slapped the voters in the face, by placing an individual at the very beginning of the line and granted him the privilege of representing the citizens who did not even vote for him. The appointed member to council did not have to comply with the demands that we make upon everyone else, not even when it comes to elections. If this is the case, why even register to vote, vote, or talk about voting. Just take applications and give it to your best friends, but be fair and tell the illegals that they no longer have to wait in line or go through the process in order to enjoy the last of our liberties and rights of our constitution. As a matter of fact in the 2016 Elections, let’s just let the government know that we want to consider taking applicants only. As per the DA attending the recent council meetings, HE SHOULD , after all, he is the one who refused to excercise his authority to prosecute criminal activity, referred to him by the County Grand Jury. Regardless if crimes against the public are infractions, misdemeanors, or felonies, it is his duty to uphold the law. The invitation is still open to you. Mr. Station when I say things in public. it is because I have had the allegations confirmed. Do yourself a favor and don’t dismiss the invitation. Please consider the old saying, “Sometimes it’s better that you did not know”.

]]> By: alex station https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2014/07/03/political-fix-3-july-2014/#comment-580 alex station Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:18:23 +0000 http://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/?p=10398#comment-580 Mr Duran , i really don't care where you live or who you know, what i do care about is you making assertions and alluring on public sites and in print media, and not backing anything you say with factual info such as: " I don’t want to show Mr. McCracken any disrespect, but he was involved in offering a 2012 candidate a position with the city if he did not run for city council that year." how can that be the city council does not hire people to work for the city lol the city manger and HR department do that..... and again if you had any credible evidence maybe you would have won some of your cases ,maybe you do have something is that why the DA been at the last two city council meetings?.... Mr Duran , i really don’t care where you live or who you know, what i do care about is you making assertions and alluring on public sites and in print media, and not backing anything you say with factual info
such as: ” I don’t want to show Mr. McCracken any disrespect, but he was involved in offering a 2012 candidate a position with the city if he did not run for city council that year.”

how can that be the city council does not hire people to work for the city lol the city manger and HR department do that…..

and again if you had any credible evidence maybe you would have won some of your cases ,maybe you do have something is that why the DA been at the last two city council meetings?….

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